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ssp
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 Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:05 am Post subject: BEC or TOEIC? |
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Hi, I am an entrepreneur, living in Hong Kong.
And I want to learn more English,for:
1.give me the ability to read more business data
2.make me understand the bbc cnn bloomberg etc
3.make me use English to chat & negotiate
I've read a lot of data,decide to choose one of the BEC and TOEIC finally
You, my friends ,as an expert,I really hope that you can give me a suggestion sincerely
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Mister Micawber
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Hello, ssp and welcome to Dave's.
Well, I had never heard of BEC before you mentioned it. I see it is British. TOEIC is American in origin, and is used all over the world. It is a major test here in Japan.
However, both these language proficiency tests merely measure your abilities; they do not help you learn more English. You haven't told us why you want to take one of these tests.
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Yo.Micawber^_^
my purpose??
because I have a lot of business file to read,lots of partners who speak English to negotiate,
so,Micawber if I learn the toeic,does it help my spoken language? reading ability? |
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Mister Micawber
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Not really. Taking preparatory classes for a language proficiency test merely prepares you for the test; any odd vocabulary you may learn or listening practice you may receive along the way is negligible.
Take a Business English class for speaking and listening; read at home for reading ability-- the newspaper, Forbes magazine, etc.
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ssp
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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yesterday,I chat with an expert, we talk a lot,finally his answer is:
As for my situation,my need. he think BEC would be better course,because BEC is more complete
thank you^_^ |
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Mister Micawber
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What makes you think I am not an expert, ssp?
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ssp
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Okay,
I chat with another expert  |
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Mister Micawber
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Thank you.
Good luck with the BEC, course, ssp!
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