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ting_yuko
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 Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: Emergency! Help on fixing sentences |
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I am teaching an SAT class, and cannot, for the life of me, find out why the underlined portion is wrong:
1. Because the American Indian rodeo includes games and exhibitions developed as early as the seventeenth century; they predate by a few hundred years the form of rodeo now seen on television.
2. Five years in the writing, her new book is both a response to her critics' mistrust with her earlier findings and an elaboration of her original thesis.
Why is it not "with"?
One more:
Dime novels, known in 19th century England as "penny dreadfuls," flourished because increased mechanization of printing and increased literacy rates made production of large numbers of these books profitable.
the answer is, there should be no correction
but why can't the underlined portion be: "as well as increased literacy rates, making" ?
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Anuradha Chepur
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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1. The underlined portion should read as it predates, since rodeo is singular.
2. I think the preposition should be of.
As for your last question, and means as well as and the latter can replace the former, but the writer has chosen the former. |
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Mary W. Ng
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Emergency! Help on fixing sentences |
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| 1. Because the American Indian rodeo includes games and exhibitions developed as early as the seventeenth century; they predate by a few hundred years the form of rodeo now seen on television. |
The underlined words they predate should be replaced by it predates because it refers back to the American Indian rodeo. The semicolon after century should be replaced by a comma.
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| 2. Five years in the writing, her new book is both a response to her critics' mistrust with her earlier findings and an elaboration of her original thesis. |
The underlined word with should be replaced by of. Mistrust is used with of.
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| Dime novels, known in 19th century England as "penny dreadfuls," flourished because increased mechanization of printing and increased literacy rates made production of large numbers of these books profitable |
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If you replace the underlined words with "as well as increased literacy rates, making", you have to add of after because; otherwise the second half of the sentence will not be complete.
I hope this helps.
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Mary W. Ng
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Emergency! Help on fixing sentences |
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Everyone makes mistakes, and so do I. Please note that replaced by that I used in my previous post is incorrect; it should be replaced with.
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Anuradha Chepur
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Everyone makes mistakes, and so do I. Please note that replaced by that I used in my previous post is incorrect; it should be replaced with. |
We have an option to edit our posts for mistakes or make changes, which is available when we are logged on.
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| If you replace the underlined words with "as well as increased literacy rates, making", you have to add of after because; otherwise the second half of the sentence will not be complete. |
No, you don't have to add of. |
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redset
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Emergency! Help on fixing sentences |
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| ting_yuko wrote: |
the answer is, there should be no correction
but why can't the underlined portion be: "as well as increased literacy rates, making" ? |
I'd be wary of making this change - as it is the sentence is saying 'dime novels flourished because the production of large numbers became profitable (due to mechanization and increased literacy rates)'. If you make that change it becomes 'dime novels flourished because of increased mechanization of printing and increased literacy rates (and the fact that they flourished meant that the production of large numbers became profitable)'. There are subtle differences, and the fact that something flourishes doesn't mean that it's necessarily profitable to produce more of it! I'd leave it as it is.
If you did make that change though, surely Mary's right and you'd need to change it to 'because of', otherwise you get 'because increased mechanization of printing as well as increased literacy rates, making production of large numbers of these books profitable.' That sentence needs closure!  |
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Anuradha Chepur
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Ah, you're right. I didn't notice made changed to making. |
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Mary W. Ng
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Previous two posts |
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Please ignore my previous two posts. Both replaced with and replaced by are correct, depending on how they are used in a sentence.
Sorry for the confusion.
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