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[muni]

i have to ask many questions.

1) we can both come on the taxi or we can both come by the taxi

2)if patient comes again then which drug would/will you recommend

3)i dont have money on me
4) i dont have any money

5)can you come pick me up from the airpot or
can you come pick me from the airport

5) can you drop me to my house /home

6)i shall be thankfull for that
or i will be thankfull for that

7) i would not be able to attend this ( i know this one is correct)
or i will not be able to attend this ( but in this sentences i am talking about future thius should be correct why its wrong)

please do reply i'll be extremely greatful for your help
tell me which one of them is correct

[BakaGaijin]

1) we can both come by the taxi

2)if the patient comes again then which drug would/will you recommend Will or Would both work in this sentence

3)i dont have any money on me

4) i dont have any money correct

5)can you come pick me from the airport? Correct

5) can you drop me off at my house

6) i am thankful for that. This is the correct way to write this.

7) i will not be able to attend this Will refers to something that is going to happen in the future when used in this sentence.




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[muni]

thank you so much for your help ,i am extremely thankful
by the way i am not a student and this is not my home work (so Bud you are right in your guess)
actually i want to improve my english because I have to take an exam where i'll be suppose to talk in english and my interview would also be in english ........... plus when i was in college i had to do presentaion in english
.thats why i am really worried and ask u guyes for help
and you were always very kind to me
but i amn still not clear about will and would
and will and shall

[bud]

Will and shall are easy to explain. Technically, shall is used in the first person for future tense.

I shall [main verb] We shall...
You will [main verb] You will...
He/she/it will [main verb] They will...

Current usage, however, uses will for all persons (at least in American English, but I think in British Engllish also). Sometimes it is used in very formal speech, and sometimes humorously to feign formality. There are a few other special uses, but in ordinary usage you will rarely see it or hear it.

Would and will are more difficult. Would has several very different uses, so that only adds to the confusion. When using would to indicate future, think of it as a conditional will, as an intention/inclination or as a more polite will. (That list may not be all inclusive). Ex.:

Bob would go to the party, but he already has a prior committment. (inclination)
Bob would go to any of Carol's parties. (He intends to go whenever she has one)
Would you mind if I go first? (politeness)
Bob would go if you do. (conditional)

Take a look at the definitions/examples in some of the online dictionaries. Here's a website that will search several dictionaries at a time (also look up 'shall' if you want to see the special uses):

http://www.onelook.com/

Hope that helps! Keep up the good work!

[bud]

The first part didn't format very well:

I shall [main verb]
You will [main verb]
He/she/it will [main verb]

We shall...
You will...
They will...

[muni]

so if it is my plan to not to go some where then why cant i say that
"i would not be able to come "
ohh.......i think if i write"i would not come " then it would be correct
but then how is it different from i will not be able to come
i guess the differance is that in the later i want to come but couldn't because of some reason while in the former i dont wish to come

am i write ????????? it does make sence to me !!
the site you advise is really helpful and i have learnt this from that site if i am correct

[bud]

Muni, these distinctions are quite complicated and I'm not an expert. That said, to my ear your first and third samples are both saying the same thing - that something makes it impossible for you to go. While the third statement is polite, the first sentence is even more polite. Maybe instead of 'polite,' you could think of it as implying more of a regret.

Yes, the second sentence is most likely saying that you don't wish to go. (There still could be a schedule conflict, for example, but it would be a terse way to relay that information). The issue here, though, is not totally one of will,would, but also one of the lack of the phrase 'be able.'

It sounds to me like you are getting a grasp of the difference. Because of the many ways we use 'would,' it is not an easy one to conquer. Keep up the good work!

[muni]

thank you for your help you are very kind and patient with me
But
if 1st and 3rd both are correct then why in your earliar reply you said that sentence (7) which i wrote is wrong ?
and correct way is to say: I will not be able to ..........
i was very confused when I read this because i have heard people say that
"I wont be able to come"

[bud]

Muni, I did not comment on your original post because it had already been answered when I first saw it. On looking at it now, I would have replied differently on a couple of items:

1. Your second choice is good, but it is more usual to say 'by taxi' (without 'the').

3. Correct, but it is more usual to say 'any money.'

5a. The first choice with 'pick me up' is correct.

6. Both are correct, except 'thankful' has only one 'l.' ('Will' is much more common... This would be said about something that you hope for or anticipate in the future. "I will be thankful if it doesn't rain next weekend.").

7. Both are correct.

There is more to be said about the will/would issue, but unfortunately I don't know how to do it. If you are still confused, and you probably are, look at the dictionary examples again. Feel free to post more examples along with your questions about them, if that will help. Hopefully someone with a good grammar background will chime in.

Thanks for the compliments, Muni. It is a pleasure to help any hard-working student, such as you.

[muni]

thank you you are very encouraging
so i can write this to my friend that

"can you come pick me up from the airport"

i am asking this again because i have to ask this from a friend and it would be very embarassing if i wrote to her in a wrong English

[bud]

Absolutely, Muni. I can't think of a better way to ask it.

Best,
Bud