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erik19283
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 144
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject: Can anyone explain how to pronounce "th"? |
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Hi,
How do you produce the different "th" sounds?
1- How do you make "th" for this, that, the, them, then, ....
2- How do you make "th" for thank, think, python (was reading about snakes!), ....
Where do you put your tongue in or out of your mouth?
Do you know of any web site with video explanation?
Any help is welcome. No matter how little it would seem to you; it's a lot to me. |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Open your teeth about 5mm, put the tip of your tongue in that small space and blow air out briefly. (about 1/5th of a second)
If you do this and make an "uh" sound you will have said, "the". |
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CP
Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 2875 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Also, the "soft" "th" sound is voiced: You make a sound when saying the "th" in "This, that, and the other."
The "hard" one is not voiced: No sound when saying the "th" in "Think, Thelonius, think!" And more air is forced out. _________________ You live a new life for every new language you speak. -Czech proverb |
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Lorikeet

Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 1877 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: |
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I'd also suggest looking in a mirror when you try to make the sound. It's not necessary (and even looks very strange!) to put your tongue way out of your mouth. It's just a little tip that is exposed. |
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lotus

Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 862
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Hi erik19283,
Try this site:
http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/english/frameset.html
Select consonants, manner, fricative. Then select the symbols that look like theta and sigma (second row). They are the two sounds for "th."
--lotus _________________ War does not make one great --Yoda |
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CP
Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 2875 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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You are right to try to learn this difficult sound. Some people give up and just make the "d / t" or the "f / v" or the "s / z" sound instead of "th," but it never sounds right:
"Dat's what I taught" for "That's what I thought."
"Fanks for nuffing" instead of "Thanks for nothing."
"I sink zat is zuh sing I need" in place of "I think that is the thing I need." _________________ You live a new life for every new language you speak. -Czech proverb |
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ClarissaMach

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Lotus,
the website you posted is really great!
CP,
You're totally right! Brazilians tend to say things like "dat". I've been trying to correct my self repeating this dumb sentence: "the book is on the table" instead of "de book is on de table".
By the way, this "th" thing reminds me of that 1930's German movie "Der blaue engel", stared by Marlene Dietrich. There is a scene in which the professor tries to teach the boy how to pronounce the "th" sound. It's hilarious! _________________ Stormy Weather. |
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lotus

Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 862
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Clarissa,
Americans do the same in formal and informal speech.
It's the (de) best.
It's the (de) bomb!
Careful speakers will always use proper pronunciation.
How about Steve Martin and "hamburger" in The Pink Panther!
--lotus _________________ War does not make one great --Yoda |
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ClarissaMach

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: |
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lotus wrote: |
Hi Clarissa,
Americans do the same in formal and informal speech.
It's the (de) best.
It's the (de) bomb!
Careful speakers will always use proper pronunciation.
How about Steve Martin and "hamburger" in The Pink Panther!
--lotus |
Oh! That's why sometimes, when I'm listening to people talking in English on TV, I have the feeling they're not saying "the" but "de". I used to think it was a problem with my "ears" ("wow, my brain is so accustomed to believing it's "d" instead of "th" that I can't see the difference when they're talking"). Now I understand why it happens! Thanks a lot, Lotus. _________________ Stormy Weather. |
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erik19283
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 144
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Thank you all for you help! |
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