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RedRose
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 Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Ellen---a brillient lesbian |
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Do you know about her?
She is a famous lesbian named Ellen.degeneres.
Do you like her? why? and why not? |
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beancurdturtle
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Hmmmm...
I'd say she was a brilliant lady and a good comedian before I'd say "lesbian."
Her sexual orientation has little to do with her talent I would guess - not all lesbians are funny.
I think she's very talented.
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RedRose
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| beancurdturtle wrote: |
Hmmmm...
I'd say she was a brilliant lady and a good comedian before I'd say "lesbian."
Her sexual orientation has little to do with her talent I would guess - not all lesbians are funny.
I think she's very talented. |
I totally agree with you at this point, turtle.
Yes, she is good at spontaneous humor, she always makes me laugh when I watch her talk show. and she happens to be a lesbian. so her sex orientation has nothing to do with her talent.
She once said that she wouldn't become an activist of lesbian, she just wanted to be herself. what a wise woman. |
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Bob S.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm with Daniel. She is first a talented comedienne who just happens to be lesbian. |
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beancurdturtle
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Bob S. wrote: |
| I'm with Daniel. She is first a talented comedienne who just happens to be lesbian. |
Thanks for correcting my English Bob. I was commenting at work quickly and didn't want to take the time look it up.
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ad-miral
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I searched very long but I didn't find any of her shows in the internet for free.
Hey RR how do you know about her?
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RedRose
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ad-miral wrote: |
I searched very long but I didn't find any of her shows in the internet for free.
Hey RR how do you know about her? |
I got to know her by watching some clips where ellen interviewing Jennifer Anniston (an actress from Friends cast).
You can download Ellen's show by emule or BitTorrent for FREE!!! |
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Lorikeet
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| beancurdturtle wrote: |
| Bob S. wrote: |
| I'm with Daniel. She is first a talented comedienne who just happens to be lesbian. |
Thanks for correcting my English Bob. I was commenting at work quickly and didn't want to take the time look it up. |
I wonder if the comediennes/comediens prefer that version, or if they think it marginalizes them. (Which means take them out of the main stream of most comediens and puts them in a special category. I think most women would just prefer "comedien" now.) |
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beancurdturtle
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| Lorikeet wrote: |
| I think most women would just prefer "comedien" now.) |
Preference and being correct are two different things in the case of English. 
I'm old fashioned in that sense. 
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Lorikeet
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| beancurdturtle wrote: |
| Lorikeet wrote: |
| I think most women would just prefer "comedien" now.) |
Preference and being correct are two different things in the case of English.
I'm old fashioned in that sense. |
On the other hand, that's how languages change. For example, "Ms." is accepted nowadays, but it was a new thing 30 or 40 years ago. (I don't remember exactly when it was "invented" ) |
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beancurdturtle
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Lorikeet wrote: |
| beancurdturtle wrote: |
| Lorikeet wrote: |
| I think most women would just prefer "comedien" now.) |
Preference and being correct are two different things in the case of English.
I'm old fashioned in that sense. |
On the other hand, that's how languages change. For example, "Ms." is accepted nowadays, but it was a new thing 30 or 40 years ago. (I don't remember exactly when it was "invented" ) |
You're exactly right. It sometimes comes down to personal preference.
But when it comes down to laziness - like me using "comedian" instead of "comedienne" or some Texas nitwit using "nucular" instead of "nuclear" - I don't think it's completely excusable. If I had time to when I wrote the comment I would have looked it up. If I was a world leader I would learn how to correctly pronounce such an important word.
But I don't think language should change because people are lazy, ignorant, or arrogant (or a combination of these).
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