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Chan-Seung Lee



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject: corner Reply with quote

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1. You will find the restaurant you're looking for on the corner of Main Street.
2. You will find the restaurant you're looking for at the corner of Main Street.
3. You will find the restaurant you're looking for in the corner of Main Street.


What is correct and why? Please let me know!

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Lorikeet



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I don't like any of them because if there is a corner, it's because there are two streets. So I'd prefer, "You'll find the restaurant you are looking for on the corner of Main and Second Avenue." I could use "at" as well.

"In" wouldn't work for me because that's a different kind of corner. (I put the chair in the corner of the room.)
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erik19283



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would be the difference, if any, between "on the corner" and "at the corner"?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I would use them interchangeably. Perhaps someone else here will have an idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the song "Loosing my religion", what is the meaning of this sentence:


"That's me in ther corner
That's me in the spotlight, loosing my religion
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

erik19283 wrote:
What would be the difference, if any, between "on the corner" and "at the corner"?


I think on is usually used for things that are permanently located (like buildings) or things that will remain for a while (parked cars, people waiting). At seems to be used more to indicate a location where an action takes place - so if you're at the corner, you'll be able to find the restaurant. If you call someone who's late, you could say 'I'm on the corner outside the restaurant' which sounds like you're waiting there - if you say 'I'm at the corner' it sounds like you just arrived, or that you might be leaving that position soon (maybe you're still walking).

Like Lorikeet said, they're often used interchangeably and the differences I'm outlining are subtle, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ClarissaMach wrote:
In the song "Loosing my religion", what is the meaning of this sentence:


"That's me in ther corner
That's me in the spotlight, loosing my religion


Literally, he's saying that the person in the corner (of some room) is him, and also that that's him in the spotlight, and he's losing his religion. Very Happy As for what he means... well you'd have to ask Michael Stipe! Song lyrics are usually open to interpretation - if I were to guess though, when people are in corners they're usually hiding away from others (sometimes naughty children are told to stand in the corner, away from the rest of the class). Being in the spotlight, however, means having everyone's attention focused on you - so maybe he's trying to have some personal time or solitude, but he can't escape everyone's attention (maybe he's singing about being famous), 'Losing my religion' could mean 'losing faith' or not feeling strongly about something he used to believe in - possibly because he can't escape the spotlight, or maybe this is something personal that's happening to him while he's in the public eye.

Or maybe it means something else entirely!

(By the way, it's losing and not loosing. Too many native speakers confuse lose and loose these days - don't be like them!)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redset wrote:
ClarissaMach wrote:
In the song "Loosing my religion", what is the meaning of this sentence:


"That's me in ther corner
That's me in the spotlight, loosing my religion


Literally, he's saying that the person in the corner (of some room) is him, and also that that's him in the spotlight, and he's losing his religion. Very Happy As for what he means... well you'd have to ask Michael Stipe! Song lyrics are usually open to interpretation - if I were to guess though, when people are in corners they're usually hiding away from others (sometimes naughty children are told to stand in the corner, away from the rest of the class). Being in the spotlight, however, means having everyone's attention focused on you - so maybe he's trying to have some personal time or solitude, but he can't escape everyone's attention (maybe he's singing about being famous), 'Losing my religion' could mean 'losing faith' or not feeling strongly about something he used to believe in - possibly because he can't escape the spotlight, or maybe this is something personal that's happening to him while he's in the public eye.

Or maybe it means something else entirely!

(By the way, it's losing and not loosing. Too many native speakers confuse lose and loose these days - don't be like them!)



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redset, I want to make sure about something.

It may not be what the song is saying, but when people are "in corners", can't it mean also that they are "stuck", cannot go anywhere or do anything else, are in a situation which seems to offer no solution or no other solution than one that is not desirable or unwanted?
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