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emiclover
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 Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: What makes people honest? |
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I' m not honest everytime.
Why do people want to be honest?
Moral code, religion, justice or the fear of getting caught? |
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ad-miral
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Moral
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I am Christian
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ad-miral
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Justice can be missusen
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I am Christian
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| ad-miral wrote: |
| Justice can be missusen |
Why? |
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Anuradha Chepur
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"I am not honest naturally, but I am so sometimes by chance."
- William Shakespeare |
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ad-miral
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For Bush invading Iraq is justice
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Lorikeet
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Moral code. Some things are right, and some things are wrong. |
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RedRose
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Lorikeet wrote: |
| Moral code. Some things are right, and some things are wrong. |
not so absolute. it's up to what kind of standpoint you got. for example, Doctors lie to the patients, you can say it's right or wrong, and that's not based moral code. |
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ClarissaMach
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I guess we are honest simply because we are taught to be.
Once and again I feel tested about my honesty. I live in a country whose president is a liar and a thief, but still he's probably going to be reelected. All the time we hear stories of people who steal and lie but, despite this, are never arrested.
But still, I insist on doing what is right. Sometimes I ask myself if I'm being dumb, but I try to think that, at least, I don't have to live with the fear of being caught. When I put my head in the pillow, I have quiet, remorseless nights.
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I am Christian
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| ad-miral wrote: |
For Bush invading Iraq is justice |
One would have to live as he wants without impairing others.
My opinion is that the pacific agreement is the justice.
Pacific separations are solutions for a lot of things(as a common separation between a man and a woman)...
An example is that american economy is an unjustice for a communist.
If this communist would have pacifically an his land(or nation) where he can work as he wants then communists and others would can agree... |
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Lorikeet
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| RedRose wrote: |
| Lorikeet wrote: |
| Moral code. Some things are right, and some things are wrong. |
not so absolute. it's up to what kind of standpoint you got. for example, Doctors lie to the patients, you can say it's right or wrong, and that's not based moral code. |
To me, lying is wrong. I understand withholding some information. I would be furious if a doctor told me I was fine because he or she didn't want me to be upset that I had cancer or something. I think that is a method that is not tolerated in the U.S. at least, although I have heard of it in other places. A doctor could tell you what disease you have and not emphasize all the possible scenarios, for example, and still not be lying. But if the patient asks a direct question, I feel the doctor is obligated to answer it truthfully. |
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RedRose
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| To me, lying is wrong. I understand withholding some information. I would be furious if a doctor told me I was fine because he or she didn't want me to be upset that I had cancer or something. I think that is a method that is not tolerated in the U.S. at least, although I have heard of it in other places. A doctor could tell you what disease you have and not emphasize all the possible scenarios, for example, and still not be lying. But if the patient asks a direct question, I feel the doctor is obligated to answer it truthfully. |
If the patient asks for a direct answer, then it's ok to tell him/her the truth. however, if the patient isn't that strong, in the other words, if the patient would probably commit suicide after knowing the truth, then as a doctor, it's necessary to lie for a while, I don't mean the doctor should lie to the patient forever, I mean, it may take some time to figure out the way to tell him/her the truth. so before figuring out the best way, the Doctor should lie so that the patient can keep alive until she'he is strong enough to know the truth. |
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emiclover
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:43 pm Post subject: Umm... |
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If I thought someone was going to get hurt, lying would be wrong.
But, flattery (telling people they are better than they really are)makes a sociable atomosphere. That's good lie.
We can send feeling with language than we really feel.
For example, we say "I love you.", but we don't love you.
However, we can't send feeling than we really feel.
For example, we say"I love you.", but we can't express our very big love only saying "I love you." |
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beancurdturtle
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:44 am Post subject: Re: What makes people honest? |
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| emiclover wrote: |
I' m not honest everytime.
Why do people want to be honest?
Moral code, religion, justice or the fear of getting caught? |
People do not always want to be honest, or nobody would lie.
People have different motivations to be dishonest. Usually fear or greed are the base motivators for actions lacking integrity.
I am personally honest for three reasons:
1. telling a lie is disrespectful;
2. I try hard to keep fear and greed from controlling me;
3. I believe others should be honest with me, so I should lead by example.
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�Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.�
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