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RedRose
Joined: 21 May 2004
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 Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: A weird phenomenon |
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I have deleted many people from my MSN list, for any of the following reasons:
1. if he/she is boring.
2. if her/his english is worse than mine.
3. if he asks me to show him my naked body by a webcam.
I must admit, of all the three reasons, 3 is the most obvious one for which I delete men from my list.
Frankly, I feel very confused. I am a woman, and I often chat with people by MSN, mainly because I wanna improve my english and get to know other cutures. however, I never wanna see any male conversation partner's naked body by a webcam, never. when I talk to a man, if he is intelligent and funny, I would feel like continuing the conversation with him, maybe I will like him as a friend, but I never want his nakedness, that's true. and I have asked many women about this case, they are in the same boat as me.
However, some male conversation partners (at least 10) have asked me to show my body. that's insane I think. I once asked a man:"why would some men wanna see women naked when they are talking by MSN? you know, that's just some chat, nothing more." that man told me:"actually, when I talk to a woman that I think attractive, I really wanna see her naked, I just can't help it. even since I know she is far away from me, I still wanna see her naked by a webcam. I don't know why."
that phenomenon really confuses me a lot. maybe that's a good example that men are wilder and more hormone-oriented than women? or something? |
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redset
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:07 am Post subject: |
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I think some people contact others on MSN because they want to see them naked  Welcome to the internet, it's full of weird people. |
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Edoardo
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Well... I agree with Redset  |
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beancurdturtle
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ok RedRose honey, let me tell you a not very well kept secret.
And you can sit down first, as I don't want you to faint and injure yourself.
Ok, here we go...
Most all men like to look at naked women. It can be photos, videos, webcams, or whatever - one-on-one in person being the best option. The proactive expression of this desire will vary from one man to the next.
Some men are emboldened by the lack of physical proximity on the Internet (you can't slap their face), and will come right out and request exactly what they want to see. In this case it's easy enough for you to say "no," and they'll move on to the next potential peep-show. I'd agree that this behavior is a bit strange.
Some men are not so bold, and will happily engage in platonic conversation with you. However, I'd bet that the majority of these men would not decline the opportunity to admire your corporeal charms if you volunteered their display. (translation: They'd look at you naked if you gave them the chance)
It's a biologically driven thing. And thank goodness - as the passions that drive men to wish to see women naked, are the same passions that drive us to procreation, and therefore the same passions that ensure the continuation of the human race.
That's just the way it is baby. 
Sounds like you are dealing with it appropriately.
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garfield_jesse
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| redset wrote: |
| I think some people contact others on MSN because they want to see them naked . |
What for? I think that behaviour is lack respect your partner.
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RedRose
Joined: 21 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| beancurdturtle wrote: |
Most all men like to look at naked women. It can be photos, videos, webcams, or whatever - one-on-one in person being the best option. The proactive expression of this desire will vary from one man to the next.
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I know, but why? why would men love to see women naked more than women wanna see men naked? ususally, most men often roam on porn websites, very often. and there are more naked women than naked men on those porn websites. obviously, porn is mainly for men. I admit, sometimes I watch porn too, but not as often as most men. why ?
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| Some men are emboldened by the lack of physical proximity on the Internet (you can't slap their face), and will come right out and request exactly what they want to see. In this case it's easy enough for you to say "no," and they'll move on to the next potential peep-show. I'd agree that this behavior is a bit strange. |
I remember, last year, a Turkish guy asked me to show him my naked body, before deleted him, I asked:"why? why do you wanna see me naked?" he said:"don't worry, I will make things fair enough. I will also show you my naked body too, then we both can imagine we are having sex with each other by seeing each other from a webcam, that'd be a total turn-on."
I asked:"first of all, I don't wanna see you naked, so you can keep your thing in your crotch; secound, it's you who wants to have sex with the monitor of computer, not me; third, I am gonna erase you from my list, so you can have sex with your computer youself."
he said:"why not!! what's your problem?"
"it's you who has a problem, maybe you just need a huge f-uck, good luck!" answered I.
"Yes!! I need a huge f-uck....from you." said he 
then I deleted him. you have to admit, he was funny, but too perverted
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| Some men are not so bold, and will happily engage in platonic conversation with you. However, I'd bet that the majority of these men would not decline the opportunity to admire your corporeal charms if you volunteered their display. (translation: They'd look at you naked if you gave them the chance) |
Come on! who will give them the chance?
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It's a biologically driven thing. And thank goodness - as the passions that drive men to wish to see women naked, are the same passions that drive us to procreation, and therefore the same passions that ensure the continuation of the human race.
That's just the way it is baby. |
the problem is that women are intent on reproducing too, why don't we have the same passions to drive us to procreation? why don't we wanna see men naked as desperately as men do?
What's women's way? just platonic conversations?  |
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beancurdturtle
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| RedRose wrote: |
the problem is that women are intent on reproducing too, why don't we have the same passions to drive us to procreation? why don't we wanna see men naked as desperately as men do?
What's women's way? just platonic conversations? |
Men are not intent on reproduction. Men are intent on sex.
Women want children and family and relationships.
They both approach courtship with different objectives. Eventually, if they are lucky, they will meet at a point where they share their desires and goals.
You are an MD, right? Haven't you learned what happens to a woman's desire if she has elevated testosterone levels?
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RedRose
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| beancurdturtle wrote: |
You are an MD, right? Haven't you learned what happens to a woman's desire if she has elevated testosterone levels? |
Unfortunately, my teachers never taught me this. During my college years, all about sex I had learnt from my teachers was Sexually Transmited Disease and that was disgusting, our teachers showed us rotten skin, mattery genitals, misshapppen infants (caused by their mothers with sexual disease).... and that's all about sex my teacher talked about. we had never discussed about our hormone like the way we are doing on the forum.
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| Men are not intent on reproduction. Men are intent on sex. |
hahaha!! good point!! no wonder almost all men seem very horny and thirsty when they date a woman.
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Anuradha Chepur
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe a lot of hormone in the woman is spent towards the maintenance of the womb?
Also the way the societies have conditioned the female psyche. |
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RedRose
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Anuradha Chepur wrote: |
Maybe a lot of hormone in the woman is spent towards the maintenance of the womb?
Also the way the societies have conditioned the female psyche. |
another explanation: maybe women come out with high price
that sounds kinda stuck-up |
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ad-miral
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:33 am Post subject: |
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dj wanna show me your boobs?
Women are not that far developed as men, that's why they are not interested in the sexual organs that much. You know scientists say that the clitoris is something similar than the p-enis because it also stands while erection.
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RedRose
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| Instead, I think women are more developed than men, that's why men seem more interested in sexual organs than women, but women accent mental factors more. |
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redset
Joined: 18 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| garfield_jesse wrote: |
| redset wrote: |
| I think some people contact others on MSN because they want to see them naked . |
What for? I think that behaviour is lack respect your partner. |
If they have a partner, then definitely. The thing about the internet is people can hide behind their computers and say things they wouldn't dare say in person. Maybe they even see it as a conquest, a game to play with the other person. Men are generally more visual than women anyway - that's probably why there are more sexual pictures aimed at men, and more sexual literature aimed at women.
Let's not pretend that this is something that only men do, though! |
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Bob S.
Joined: 29 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| garfield_jesse wrote: |
| redset wrote: |
| I think some people contact others on MSN because they want to see them naked . |
What for? I think that behaviour is lack respect your partner. |
Well, that's kind of obvious, isn't it? The guys don't say such things because they respect her. They say it because thay want her to scratch the guys' itch (if you know what I mean). The net is full of perverts!  
Guys understand: there are the girls you date, and there are the girls you marry, and you treat them differently (usually based on how they treat themselves). |
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beancurdturtle
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| RedRose wrote: |
| Instead, I think women are more developed than men, that's why men seem more interested in sexual organs than women, but women accent mental factors more. |
I don't think women are more developed than men. It's more like women have been conditioned by society to be less secure and comfortable expressing their corporeal passions.
For example, it's very accepted (and even expected) for a woman to have a deep desire to have children - but it is not always acceptable (depending on the individual and their society) for a woman to have a deep desire to have sex. However, from a pragmatic standpoint, not many people have children without having sex. Why do we (people's societal expectations and religions) set up these nonsensical dichotomies?
That's a bit screwed up if you asked me.
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