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[DANIELA-R]

Hi!! I'm from Costa Rica, this country is very peacefull, but also is very corupt because of the president and their deputies?? what do you dislike about your contry and what do you like???

[David Schwimmer]

I am chinese ,I love my coutry,love my family ,love my friends !
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[cavcstudios]

I love my country and I'm proud of it.

[sayu0816]

I love my country Japan!!!!!!!!!!!

Japan has many good points

[J@n@]

im from germany and i dont know wether i should like it or not. a few years ago i was very ashamed of being german - when i was... i dont know, old enough to find out. old enough to KNOW.
right know i neither hate or love my country. im living in germany. i have to. my parents and my grandparents are born here and most of my friends are, too.
i hate the few people who are racist, the neonazis (i dont know the english word). i am really ashamed for them. i really apologize that they are still there - that there are still people thinking stupid things (oh, they dont THINK, if they did, they wouldnt say and do stupid stuff..)..

all in all i dont think my country has anything i could be proud of
jana

[Dixie]

[J@n@]

well, i did not mean that i dont want to talk about it. we do. and we did. and we will always talk about it because you shouldnt forget the things that happened in the past.
i am ashamed that things like that - not that terrible, but in a smaller way - happen again! - i read that in china there are kind of KZs just for some people from a group called Falun Gong or so. and tibet, for example, isnt a free country - although it was always free before china ran over it and claimed it.. (is "claim" right? i dont know the right words..)
and what about the kind of way the people are treated all over the world?
whats about guantanamo? whats about soldiers hitting and hurting people just because they have the power to hurt them... i hate this!

Jana

[ad-miral]

hi J@n@ I'm not German but I live in Germany too (in NRW), and I really appreciate you for saying this. I have known a lot of people who make jokes with things like that but I think you can't make jokes about such things. So I appreciate you very much. All Germans should be like you.

[Cristi]

Hi everybody!

Jana:

I'm glad you're so concerned about your history and about others' history. There have been many terrible people in this world, evil people, devils! We can't say no to that, we must face it. But you must not be ashamed of your country, all of it happened before you could do anything to stop it. It isn't your fault what the nazis did and it isn't your fault that you where born in Germany. Nobody chooses where to born, but we do choose what to follow and what to think. What you're doing right now, saying no to war, no to neonazis and all that is just what every person in this world should do. Thank you very much for giving the example to so many people.

Bye!
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[crisinparis]

Hi everybody! I'm cris and I'm 25 years old. I'm from Italy, but I live in Paris. I work in contemporary art. I studied History of Art in Paris, at the Sorbonne University. I love my country. I miss it so much, but I love live in Paris too. Paris is a wonderful city where there are always something to do.

[J@n@]

im 15 (and a half!) years old... and i live in NRW, too!

i know that some people make fun of it - theres a new ("comedy") hitler-movie at the cinema... . i think that its easier to laugh than to cry. well, i know people who make fun of hitler (i think its worser to make fun of the persecutions than of hitler..) and then, a few minutes later, they are very searious and work hard in our project (we search after a jew who lived in our hometown and was killed by the nazis (we dont know much about her)).

oh its good that you told me i was wrong about falungong - i was really confused that it should be something like that.


its nice to meet you, too

i know that i couldnt do anything to stop it because i wasnt even born in this time, but it feels so wrong that there are still a few (neo)nazis. its even kind of ironic that there are kind of neonazis in other countries.. i just want to say that germany has to do something against all racism and the abuses against the human rights. especially as a country with this kind of past we have to promise that something like that will never happen again - and it IS happening. maybe not in that horrible way, but it still happens that people are disadvantaged because of their nationality, they might even be killed because of these reasons..!

Jana

[ad-miral]

yeah of course they are! Do you know Stoiber? He has a very narrow, racist view towards Turkish people, you know he blaimed the foreigners living in Germany for the poverty in Germany. That's exactly what Hitler did! I'm very happy that he is about to be exchanged now, in this way maybe turkey can be part of the European Union and maybe I can visit my friends in turkey then.
Please don't critisize other nations without being sure whether your blaim is correct or not. You know, mostly anger starts here, followed by mmore anger, conflicts, and war etc.

But you know you can't change the things which already happened. The most important thing is to live in the present and to be sure not to fall in the nationalsocialistic thinking again.

[J@n@]

yes i know stoiber... i dont really like him - and a boy at school (he lived in bayern till he moved to NRW) keeps on telling us how wonderful and great bayern, the CSU and of course stoiber is. Well, hes just an intolerant ... racistical boy and we try hard not to listen to him - and to tell him that its wrong that the things he thinks and says are stupid, but hes just too intolerant to listen to us.

Anyway, i would not say that germany is "poor" - there are poorer countries than germany. well, of course we do have areares and there are many problems and our country hasnt enough money to solve all problems, but i think it could be worser.. well, things are getting worser and worser and i really wonder what the politicians will do. sometimes it appears to me as if they would not care about the things the people want.

Well i dont understand why many people are against the other countries being a part of the EU - i think the more we are the stronger the EU gets. maybe its wrong and i know nothing about thinks like that.. well, of course we also get weaker if there are only "weak" countries, but i think in one way we get stronger: We are more countries, bound to one Union, and maybe the other countries will listen more to the things the one voice, the EU, says and we will be stronger in the way that we are one.

Well, i believed that it was right, because i read it. in - i dont know, dortund? - was a demonstration by falungong people and they gave me a hand-out that described the things the chinese people should do with them. i believed it was right and was really shocked - (im sorry, i cant say it in enlish: Dass dort Menschen illegal festgehalten werden in Lagern, wo ihnen lebenswichtige Organe entnommen werden und dann f�r andere Menschen als "Organspende" genutzt werden. I dont know, it sounded really strange and i couldnt believe it. well, its easy to believe the bad things..).

bye Jana

[hiroki-0906]

Hi, I am Japanese girl I love Japan!!
Especiall,I love my prefecture.It is rural, but it is good to live
But, I want My prefecture to educate "human education"

[hiro1004]

I am japanese I like my countory
Because japanese food is the best of my favorite food
But I dislike that The Japanese remain a strongly insular people
I want Japanese to look to the World