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Marrion



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: About "hope" Reply with quote

I hope that he would win the game.
I hope he would be handsome, and if possible, .....
I hope she would work to improve women`s rights.
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I was taught that the verb "hope" must be used with a present tense and followed by "will" with a future meaning.

But I have seen that the verb "hope" is often used with "would" on the Internet.

So I really want to know why and how the verb "hope" is used with "would".

Is the verb "hope" used with "would"?

If so, why and how?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: About "hope" Reply with quote

Marrion wrote:
I hope that he would win the game.
I hope he would be handsome, and if possible, .....
I hope she would work to improve women`s rights.
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I was taught that the verb "hope" must be used with a present tense and followed by "will" with a future meaning.

But I have seen that the verb "hope" is often used with "would" on the Internet.

So I really want to know why and how the verb "hope" is used with "would".

Is the verb "hope" used with "would"?

If so, why and how?


Code:
I hoped that he would get well. I hope you get well very soon.

These are perfectly correct sentences.

Going back to your question, would is a modal used to express your polite attitude.

Code:
Will you open the door? Would you open the door?

The latter is more polite than the former.



Code:
He would win the game. He would be handsome. She would work to improve women's rights.


These sentences can also be considered the main clause of the conditionals, If + past tense, would + verb.

Code:
I am sure (or I hope) he would say that I misunderstand him (if I asked him).
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Marrion



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Another questions Reply with quote

So can't the verb "hope" be used with "would" at all?

[1] I hope that he would win the game.
[2] I hope he would be handsome, and if possible, .....
[3] I hope she would work to improve women`s rights.

Are all this sentences incorrect?

I saw that when someone gave another person an answer, he used "hope" in a present tense with "would"

So I am confused..

If all this sentences are incorrect, why do many people in America use "hope" with "would"?
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Mary W. Ng



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: About "hope" Reply with quote

Hi Marrion,

Quote:
I was taught that the verb "hope" must be used with a present tense and followed by "will" with a future meaning.

You're right. The sentences are not correct; the auxiliary verb should be changed to will. Smile

Hi pinenut,

Quote:
These sentences can also be considered the main clause of the conditionals, If + past tense, would + verb.

Code:
I am sure (or I hope) he would say that I misunderstand him (if I asked him).

Hope means "to want and expect something to happen". It doesn't make sense to use hope with the conditional would as the latter is used to show a future event that is unlikely. Smile
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Marrion



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Thank you very much. Reply with quote

Thank you very much. ^0^

May all of you be happy!!
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