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b7lake
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 Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: complement or object? |
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(1)He taught me swimming.
(2)He targht me to swim.
Are both "swimming" and "to swim" objective complements?
I'd appreciate your help. |
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Mary W. Ng
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: complement or object? |
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(1)He taught me swimming.
(2)He targht me to swim. |
Both the gerund "swimming" and the infinitive "to swim" function as the direct object of the verb "taught".
(3) He found me swimming.
In this sentence, the present participle "swimming" functions as the object complement, completing the meaning of the direct object "me". 
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pinenut
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: complement or object? |
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| Mary W. Ng wrote: |
(3) He found me swimming.
In this sentence, the present participle "swimming" functions as the object complement, completing the meaning of the direct object "me". |
Would you say the same thing for the following sentences?
Judicious amounts of salt helped tone it all down, but I found myself swallowing each mouthful with a bit of a frown on my face.
I saw her swimming in the swimming pool.
I am afraid that you don't understand the word, complement, in grammar, whether it be a subjective or objective.
If I borrowin your logic, you have to call 'swimming' a subject complement in the following sentence.
She is swimming in the pool. |
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Mary W. Ng
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: complement or object? |
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Please ignore this post.
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Mary W. Ng
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: complement or object? |
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Would you say the same thing for the following sentences?
Judicious amounts of salt helped tone it all down, but I found myself swallowing each mouthful with a bit of a frown on my face. |
Hi pinenut,
"Swallowing each mouthful with a bit of a frown on my face" is an object complement since it completes the meaning of the direct object "myself". Does the sentence make sense without "swallowing ..."?
Examples:
1. He kept me "waiting". ("Waiting" is the object complement.)
2. Let him "finish the job" ("Finish the job" is the object complement.)
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| I saw her swimming in the swimming pool. |
"Swimming in the swimming pool" is the object complement. When a word or phrase tells you more about the direct object, it is considered an object complement.
Examples:
1. I boiled the egg "hard". ("Hard" is the object complement.)
2. He got the car "running". ("Running" is the object complement.)
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| I am afraid that you don't understand the word, complement, in grammar, whether it be a subjective or objective. |
Pray enlighten me.
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If I borrowin your logic, you have to call 'swimming' a subject complement in the following sentence.
She is swimming in the pool. |
My sample sentence was "He found me swimming". How could this sentence be similar to yours? In your sentence, "swimming" is the main verb (in present participle form). In my sentence "swimming" is a present participle functioning as an adjective.
Let me give you an example where "swimming" functions as the subject complement: She is found swimming in the pool.
Here "swimming" is the subject complement telling you more about the subject "she".
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pinenut
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: complement or object? |
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| Mary W. Ng wrote: |
Let me give you an example where "swimming" functions as the subject complement: She is found swimming in the pool.
Here "swimming" is the subject complement telling you more about the subject "she". |
I am really surprised at your assertion that 'swimming' as in 'I saw her swimming' an object compelement. What about 'swim' in 'I saw hem swim'? Is 'swim" an object complement?
I don't care what you believe, but I am concerned about your teaching (?) others wrong grammar.
If I use your loging, 'swimming' as in 'I am swimming' is a subject comlement because it completes the meaning of the subject. This is non-sense. So, stop confusing innocent people!!!!!!!!! |
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pinenut
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: complement or object? |
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| b7lake wrote: |
(1)He taught me swimming.
(2)He targht me to swim.
Are both "swimming" and "to swim" objective complements?
I'd appreciate your help. |
I don't want you to learn something completely wrong from another individual. Here is a brief summary of what an object compelement is.
:: Object Complements
An object complement follows the direct object and modifies or refers to the direct object. An object complement can be an adjective, a noun, or a word or word group acting as an adjective or noun:
If you elect me president, I'll keep the unions satisfied.
("President" is an object complement referring to the direct object "me." "Satisfied" is an object complement modifying the direct object "unions.")
The students elected Mary president.
("President" is an object complement referring to the direct object "Mary.")
Wool socks will keep your feet very warm.
("Very warm" is an object complement modifying the direct object "your feet.") |
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Mary W. Ng
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: complement or object? |
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I don't want you to learn something completely wrong from another individual. |
If you had bothered to check this link, pinenut, you wouldn't have made such a silly statement: http://www.bartleby.com/68/80/4180.html
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| If I use your loging, 'swimming' as in 'I am swimming' is a subject comlement because it completes the meaning of the subject. This is non-sense. |
Apparently, you haven't read my last post carefully. My sample sentence "He found me swimming" and your sample sentence "I am swimming" are different in structure. Mine is S-V-O-OC and yours is S-V. In my sentence, the present participle "swimming" is the object complement (OC), referring to the direct object (O) "me". In your sentence, "swimming", being the main verb, is part of the verb phrase (V). So, how can you say that "swimming" is a subject complement (SC) in "I am swimming", using my logic?
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| I am really surprised at your assertion that 'swimming' as in 'I saw her swimming' an object compelement. |
Pray, tell me how you would parse the above sentence.
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| So, stop confusing innocent people!!!!!!!!! |
Had you bothered to verify what I have written, from a variety of sources, pinenut, you wouldn't have said such a thing, would you?
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| I don't care what you believe, but I am concerned about your teaching (?) others wrong grammar. |
pinenut, I don't know why you took such a dislike to me. I always try to be helpful by answering questions to the best of my ability. While I do make mistakes now and then, I always point them out in a following post. I do believe this quote: "If one pretends to be what one is not, one lives in constant fear that someone may someday find out the truth."
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