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Yukineko
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 Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:33 am Post subject: Do the sentences have the same meaning? |
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Hello teachers. Could you tell me if the following sentences have the same meaning?
(1) My brother cannot so much as take the train by himself.
(2) My brother cannot even take the train by himself.
Thanks in advance.
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Yinglish
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Do the sentences have the same meaning? |
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| Yukineko wrote: |
Hello teachers. Could you tell me if the following sentences have the same meaning?
(1) My brother cannot so much as take the train by himself.
(2) My brother cannot even take the train by himself.
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Yes, they mean the same thing. The second sentence is more precise and succinct. |
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LunaCat
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Why don't write : My brother cannot take the train by himself ??
it seems to me that this way it's more easy |
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myprofe
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: Correct me please! |
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| LunaCat wrote: |
| Why don't write : My brother cannot take the train by himself ?? it seems to me that this way it's more easy |
Corrections and suggestions:Why don't you say : My brother cannot take the train by himself? It seems to me that this way is easier.
Comment: I think that, in addition to answering questions, we should correct the posts. A mistake that's not corrected is assumed to be correct.
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senry
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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I think Yukineko just wanted to know if two sentences are semantically equivalent (i.e. so much as = even). asian students are taught English this way when it comes to idiomatic expressions.
I believe the expression "so much as" sounds too heavy for an easy sentence like this. And if two sentences are not really interchangeable or equivalent, maybe the way of teaching per se is wrong.
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myprofe
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: Does he want to learn English? |
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| senry wrote: |
| I think Yukineko just wanted to know if two sentences are semantically equivalent::: |
Corrections and suggestions: I think Yukineko just wanted to know if the two sentences were semantically equivalent:::
Comment: I thought that people who visited foreign language forums like this one were actually interested in learning, in this case, English. 
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senry
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Sorry. I did not make a comment to counterargue your point and I agree corrections should be made, if any. It was just the person before you made a comment, trying to get a sentence easier. And I felt that comment was not answering Yukineko's question.
There are a lot to learn from this website thanks to you guys efforts.
Anyway I am a big fan of thie site and will be back sometime.
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myprofe
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: Corrections |
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| LunaCat wrote: |
| Why don't write : My brother cannot take the train by himself ?? it seems to me that this way it's more easy |
Corrections and suggestions: Why don't you write : My brother cannot take the train by himself? It seems to me that this way would be easier.
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myprofe
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: Corrections |
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| senry wrote: |
Sorry. I did not make a comment to counterargue your point and I agree corrections should be made, if any. It was just the person before you made a comment, trying to get a sentence easier.
There are a lot to learn from this website thanks to you guys efforts. |
Corrections and suggestions: I did not make a comment to contradict your point and I agree corrections should be made, if there are any. It was just that the person before you made a comment, trying to make an easier sentence.
There is a lot to learn from this website thanks to you guys' efforts.
Comment: I didn't see that other post. Sorry if I seemed to be attacking you. We both agree that corrections are important.
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