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wangfeel

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 73 Location: Beijing, China
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: speak respite /ai/ or /i/? |
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I saw in TV. They said> If you lie to me, death would be no respite. They said it /i/. But my dictionary said it /ai/. Which one is used today? _________________ "Watch flower flowering and searing
Stay or leave has no sense
Clouds curling and stretching
Like or dislike is no surprising " from old Chinese saying |
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ad-miral

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Lorikeet

Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 1877 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I remember the first time I used that word. It was 45 years ago. I was going out on a date, and I said something to the boy at the door using the word "respite" and pronouncing the second syllable so it rhymed with "night" and had the stress on the second syllable. My mother corrected me. I was so embarrassed! But I had never heard the word before, and you can't really tell by looking at it how it should be pronounced. It's because the stress is on the first syllable that the second syllable is pronounced more like "spit" although I would say it isn't really an /i/ vowel (which is usually stressed) but the vowel we use in syllables with reductions, sometimes called a schwa or a barred i). At least you know native speakers can make mistakes too! |
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bud
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 2111 Location: New Jersey, US
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: |
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I was probably in my 40's before I learned the correct pronunciation for gamut! I always thought it was "ga-MUTT" because I'd never noticed it spoken until then.  |
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wangfeel

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 73 Location: Beijing, China
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: thanks |
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Thank you very much.
I heard it in 'Deadwood'. I felt that many antique words seem so moderate and elegant to be heard out, rather than being read. I can never keep in wonderment about new words in a book. But voice does give an impression. _________________ "Watch flower flowering and searing
Stay or leave has no sense
Clouds curling and stretching
Like or dislike is no surprising " from old Chinese saying |
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CP
Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 2875 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: Re: speak respite /ai/ or /i/? |
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wangfeel wrote: |
I saw in TV. They said> If you lie to me, death would be no respite. They said it /i/. But my dictionary said it /ai/. Which one is used today? |
You will hear it said with /ai/ sometimes, and I think that may be more a British variation than an American one. Can't you just hear Tony Blair talking about getting re-SPITE from war? Whereas Bush -- well, maybe one of his people -- would talk about RESS-pit from war. _________________ You live a new life for every new language you speak. -Czech proverb |
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