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speak respite /ai/ or /i/?

 
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wangfeel



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: speak respite /ai/ or /i/? Reply with quote

I saw in TV. They said> If you lie to me, death would be no respite. They said it /i/. But my dictionary said it /ai/. Which one is used today?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with /i/ is the correct one, like spit, just with a re- before it. Listen it here:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=respite
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember the first time I used that word. It was 45 years ago. I was going out on a date, and I said something to the boy at the door using the word "respite" and pronouncing the second syllable so it rhymed with "night" and had the stress on the second syllable. My mother corrected me. I was so embarrassed! But I had never heard the word before, and you can't really tell by looking at it how it should be pronounced. It's because the stress is on the first syllable that the second syllable is pronounced more like "spit" although I would say it isn't really an /i/ vowel (which is usually stressed) but the vowel we use in syllables with reductions, sometimes called a schwa or a barred i). At least you know native speakers can make mistakes too!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was probably in my 40's before I learned the correct pronunciation for gamut! I always thought it was "ga-MUTT" because I'd never noticed it spoken until then. Embarassed
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wangfeel



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

Thank you very much.

I heard it in 'Deadwood'. I felt that many antique words seem so moderate and elegant to be heard out, rather than being read. I can never keep in wonderment about new words in a book. But voice does give an impression.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: speak respite /ai/ or /i/? Reply with quote

wangfeel wrote:
I saw in TV. They said> If you lie to me, death would be no respite. They said it /i/. But my dictionary said it /ai/. Which one is used today?

You will hear it said with /ai/ sometimes, and I think that may be more a British variation than an American one. Can't you just hear Tony Blair talking about getting re-SPITE from war? Whereas Bush -- well, maybe one of his people -- would talk about RESS-pit from war.
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