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Kenji Noda



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: as long as;so long as Reply with quote

Dear friends,
I am learning English by myself.
Someone please explain me the difference between the two sentences below.

You can stay here as long as you keep quiet.
You can stay here so long as you keep quiet.

Sincerely,
Kenji

P.S.
Just check my photos.
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Mister Micawber



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is no difference. The 'so' form is more often used in negative statements.
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Kenji Noda



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: at English learning Reply with quote

Thank you very much for your quick reply.
I made a same question at English learning forum and got the following answer:

Quote:
You can stay here as long as you keep quiet.

You will be allowed to stay here for the rest of your life if you keep quiet.

Quote:
You can stay here so long as you keep quiet.

In former discussion, Maybe A asked B: Can I stay here for 15 minutes?
Then B answers A: You can stay here "so long" (15 minutes) if you keep quiet.

You can stay here as long as you keep quiet.
--->I am simply saying "condition" and "permission."
You said that they have no difference.
I am just a little bit confused.
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Mister Micawber



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The danger of seeking advice on the internet is that you don't know who you are talking to. As far as I am concerned the posting you received elsewhere is ridiculously off the point (you can see that the example reads 'so long...if-- not 'as'-- and is a different structure entirely).

I suggest that you stick with my explanation, but that is your choice.
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Lorikeet



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Mr. Micawber. They are essentially the same.
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Kenji Noda



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: I stick to your advice. Reply with quote

Mister Micawber wrote:
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The danger of seeking advice on the internet is that you don't know who you are talking to. As far as I am concerned the posting you received elsewhere is ridiculously off the point (you can see that the example reads 'so long...if-- not 'as'-- and is a different structure entirely).

I suggest that you stick with my explanation, but that is your choice.
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Thank you very much again.
I really stick to your explanation.
Thank you very much again.
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