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Hiroaki Sone



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: A Is to B What C Is to D Reply with quote

Anyone please help.

[1] Exercise is to the body what reading is to the mind.

What part of speech is "what" in the sentence? I thought it was a relative pronoun .... Is it a conjunction since it is interchangeable with "as," which is a conjunction there?

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pinenut



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: A Is to B What C Is to D Reply with quote

Hiroaki Sone wrote:
Anyone please help.

[1] Exercise is to the body what reading is to the mind.

What part of speech is "what" in the sentence? I thought it was a relative pronoun .... Is it a conjunction since it is interchangeable with "as," which is a conjunction there?

Best,

Hiro[/list]


Exercise (subject) is (verb) to the body (adverbial phrase) what reading is to the mind (complement).

[Edit] "what" is a nomonal relative pronoun. So, if you consider a relative pronoun to be a conjunction, 'what' is one. However, I don't think "what" is interchangeable with "as".

Here is an explanation about 'nominal relative clause'.

nominal relative clause : a type of nominal subordinate clause. Unlike adjectival relative clauses, it does not have an antecedent in the matrix clause, and it is not introduced by a relative pronoun. Instead, a nominal relative clause is introduced by a pronoun which seems to combine the functions of antecedent and relative pronoun, viz. what(ever), which(ever), who(ever). E.g. Whatever he touches turns to gold. What she wanted was to become a sports reporter. Who we met there was Adam Peters. You can do what you like.


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buddhaheart



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

�What� is a conjunction. It means as much as or as far as.
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2006



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"what" doesn't mean ''as much as'' or ''as far as''; it is not quantitative. It just means as or like.
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buddhaheart



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2006 wrote:
"what" doesn't mean ''as much as'' or ''as far as''; it is not quantitative. It just means as or like.


�What� may be used as a conjunction, perhaps in the question sentence. According to my
dictionary and dictionary.com, �what� means exactly what I stated in my reply if used as a conjunction.
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2006



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still disagree.
My dictionary doesn't list "what" as a conjunction. �dictionary.com� does list "what" as a conjunction but states that it is "older use" meaning "as much as", "as far as", and gives the example "He helps me what he can."

But that is not the meaning in Hiroaki's sentence. In Hiroaki's sentence "what" means 'as', and 'as' can replace "what". It is a qualitative equivalent. It is the same thing, not the same amount.
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