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learner1



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: decide Reply with quote

Hello,

'He has decided to give up smoking.'

1.Could we use 'make a decision' , 'make up one's mind' or 'determine' instead of 'decide' here? e.g.

(1)'He has made a decision to give up smoking.'
(2)'He has made up his mind to give up smoking.'
(3)'He has determined to give up smoking.'
Do they all have the same meaning?
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2.Could we use 'quit' or 'get rid of' instead of 'give up' here? e.g.

(1)'He has decided to quit smoking.'
(2)'He has decided to get rid of smoking.'
Do they all have the same meaning?

Thank you very much.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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#1-- all your sentences are OK and essentially synonymous.

#2-- The second is no good; it misuses 'get rid of', which requires some sort of solider object. He has decided to get rid of his habit of smoking is better, but still sounds a bit odd to my ear.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mister Micawber,

Thanks for your answer very much. I am still a bit confused about the word 'determine'.

1.Do you mean 'to determine' and 'to decide' don't have any difference?
According to dictionary, 'determined' means 'having a strong desire to do something, so that you will not let anyone stop you.' If I use it in the example:

'He is determined to give up smoking.'
Does it still have the same meaning as
'He has determined/decided to give up smoking'?
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2.'He has decided to give up football at the end of this season.'
Could we use 'quit' instead of 'give up' here?



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Mister Micawber



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1--
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'determined' means 'having a strong desire to do something

Yes, the adjective is stronger than the verb. As the verb in your example sentence, it seems no stronger than 'decided' to me.

2-- Yes,
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mister Micawber,

Thank you very much for helping me clear it up.
These two examples are from the dictionary:

1.'I asked them to quit talking.'
Is 'give up' fine instead of 'quit' here?

2.'After looking for her missing dog for a month, she gave up the search.
Is 'quit' fine instead of 'gave up' here?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1-- No. Give up generally means to quit forever.
2-- Yes.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mister Micawber,

Thank you very much for all your helpful answers.
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