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ShoHiro
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 65 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: drink coffee hot / cook the meat dry |
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Dear teachers,
Sometimes, adjectives can be posed in the sentence-final position as in (a)
(1) a. He ate the meat raw.
b. He left the room angry.
With such expressions, is the following expression acceptable?
(2) I drank my coffee hot, though it was cold.
For example, suppose the following situation: I ordered hot coffee. But it was cold because the pot didn't work, which the waiters didn't notice. Of course, other situation could work.
I have another question.
(3) He cooked the meat dry.
Does this sentence mean that he cooked the meat without water? That is, dry in (3) can be paraphrased as without water?
Sincerely,
ShoHiro |
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Lorikeet

Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 1877 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: drink coffee hot / cook the meat dry |
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| ShoHiro wrote: |
(2) I drank my coffee hot, though it was cold.
For example, suppose the following situation: I ordered hot coffee. But it was cold because the pot didn't work, which the waiters didn't notice. Of course, other situation could work. |
Actually, that's funny, because I thought you meant, "I drank my coffee hot (it was hot coffee), though it was cold. (the weather was cold).
For your sentence, maybe you would like, "I drink my coffee hot, but yesterday the restaurant made a mistake and I drank it even though it was cold.
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I have another question.
(3) He cooked the meat dry.
Does this sentence mean that he cooked the meat without water? That is, dry in (3) can be paraphrased as without water? |
Actually, I thought the sentence meant he overcooked the meat; that is, he cooked it so long that it dried out. |
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ShoHiro
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 65 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Dear Lorikeet,
Thank you very much for the lucid answer.
Can the sentence (1), which you told me, be simpler?
(1) I drank my coffee hot, but yesterday the restaurant made a mistake and I drank it even though it was cold.
How about the followings?
(2) a. I drank my coffee hot, though it was not so hot.
b. I drank my coffee hot. But the coffee is very cold!
With the sentence (3), even if some appropriate contexts are given, is it impossible to interpret dry as without water?
(3) He cooked the meat dry.
Best wishes,
ShoHiro |
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Lorikeet

Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 1877 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| ShoHiro wrote: |
Dear Lorikeet,
Thank you very much for the lucid answer.
Can the sentence (1), which you told me, be simpler?
(1) I drank my coffee hot, but yesterday the restaurant made a mistake and I drank it even though it was cold.
How about the followings?
(2) a. I drank my coffee hot, though it was not so hot.
b. I drank my coffee hot. But the coffee is very cold!
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There's a mistake in your quote of mine. I purposely didn't say "I drank my coffee hot" and instead said "I drink my coffee hot." In my sentence, I am explaining how I usually drink my coffee, and that there was a change this time. If you say "I drank my coffee hot..." it means that was the way you drank it.
You could say:
I drink my coffee hot, though it was not so hot this time.
I drink my coffee hot, but the coffee was very cold!
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With the sentence (3), even if some appropriate contexts are given, is it impossible to interpret dry as without water?
(3) He cooked the meat dry.
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Context is always very important, of course, and lots of things are possible even if we don't think so before we see them, but I would have to see the context because at the moment, I don't think so. |
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ShoHiro
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 65 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Dear Lorikeet,
Thank you very much for the immediate answer. It is very helpful.
I see your point. I thought it was a typo.
Given "I drank my coffee hot," but not "I drink my coffee hot," does the sentence (1) sound odd?
(1) I drank my coffee hot, but the cup was frozen (I don't know why) and coffee itself was very cold.
Let me ask another question, which is the final question. Is the following sentence acceptable?
(2) I drank my coffee black, although the color of it was white (I don't know why).
Sincerely,
ShoHiro |
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Lorikeet

Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 1877 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| ShoHiro wrote: |
Dear Lorikeet,
Given "I drank my coffee hot," but not "I drink my coffee hot," does the sentence (1) sound odd?
(1) I drank my coffee hot, but the cup was frozen (I don't know why) and coffee itself was very cold.
(2) I drank my coffee black, although the color of it was white (I don't know why).
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Both sentences sound odd to me. How did you drink your coffee hot if you say the coffee was cold? How did you drink your coffee black if you say it was white? They don't make any sense to me.
The only way I can see, is if you are telling me about how you habitually used to drink your coffee hot, but this one time you drank it cold. It would have to be something like:
When I stayed in New York, I drank my coffee hot, except for this one time when the cup was frozen and so I drank it cold. |
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ShoHiro
Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 65 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Dear Lorikeet,
Thank you very much. And I'm sorry for reponding late.
The example you presented me is insightful. I see your point.
ShoHiro |
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