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Chan-Seung Lee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: as to do sth Reply with quote
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1.He was so kind as to help me.
2.He was drunk as to be in the hospital.
3.How could you drink so much as to be in the hospital?


I made sentences above to practice 'so~ as to do sth'.
Could you pinpoint my mistakes in the sentences if any?

Thanks.
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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: as to do sth Reply with quote
Chan-Seung Lee wrote:
Quote:
1.He was so kind as to help me.
2.He was drunk as to be in the hospital.
3.How could you drink so much as to be in the hospital?
I made sentences above to practice 'so~ as to do sth'.
Could you pinpoint my mistakes in the sentences if any?
so~ as to ### is a cause and effect grammar form. ____ so ___ is the cause, as to ____ is the effect. For example:
The Stratosphere Tower is so tall as to be a hazard to aviation.

Your sentence #1 doesn't have that form, so it doesn't quite work. It sounds a bit odd to my ear.
#2 is close. I would write it:
He was so drunk as to need to go to the hospital.

#3 is okay.
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Chan-Seung Lee



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: one more Reply with quote
Thanks, Bob.

I have some more questions.

1. I think that #1 is written as the form 'so~as to do something'. I can't not understand why you think it is not written as the form. I would be appreciate if you would explain it again.
2.'How could you drink so much that you were in the hospital?' is the same meaning as #3?

Thanks again.
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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: one more Reply with quote
Chan-Seung Lee wrote:
1. I think that #1 is written as the form 'so~as to do something'. I can't not understand why you think it is not written as the form. I would be appreciate if you would explain it again.
It's just that, to my sense, the cause and effect don't make sense. IMO, his kindness does not make him be helpful, but rather his helpfulness makes him a kind person. If there is no helpfulness, then there is no kindness. I would write #1 as:
It was so kind of him to help me.

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2.'How could you drink so much that you were in the hospital?' is the same meaning as #3?
Yes, it seems to mean the same to my ear.
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