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Cake: countable or uncountable?

 
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nawee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: Cake: countable or uncountable? Reply with quote

Hello,

When is cake countable and when is it uncountable?

Thank you,

Nawee
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When is cake countable and when is it uncountable?


The word cake is countable when you're talking about whole, entire cakes. For example:

That bakery sells very fancy cakes for special occasions.

The word cake is uncountable when you are talking about one or more pieces of cake or about eating some cake, with no emphasis on the whole, entire cake. For example:

There is still some cake left in the refrigerator...would you like a piece?

Actually, there are a number of food words that work exactly the same way, where the word is countable if you're talking about whole entire units and uncountable if you're talking about smaller portions or about eating some. Four such words that immediately leap to mind are pizza, ham, chicken, and turkey.

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nawee



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So "watermelon", "papaya" and "cauliflower" fall in this category?

What about when you say you like these kinds of food? Are they still uncountable because we mean we like to eat them?

I like pizza(s).
I like all kinds of pizzas. (?)
I like watermelon(s).

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jumbonaut



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure pizza is being used correctly in your examples. I feel a good way to test how word forms sound in a countable/uncountable situation is to put a number in front of it.

I like pizza. (This is saying you like the food pizza (uncountable))
I like all kinds of pizza. (This is saying you like all types of the food pizza (uncountable))
I have one pizza. (Singular (countable))
I bought three pizzas. (Plural (countable))

These four sentences and the word form of the food would all work with watermelon, cake, chicken, turkey and papaya.

Cauliflower can be countable and uncountable too, but we don't add "s" to then end when you have three cauliflower. The same applies to "fish".
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nawee



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the 4 very useful sentences.

"Cauliflower" doesn't take an "s"?! I have seen "cauliflowers" quite a lot in recipes and on the Internet. That is grammatically incorrect?! This is new to me.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked and you are right. "Cauliflowers" is a correct plural form of "cauliflower". However, "cauliflower" is often used as the plural in my region. Both forms are acceptable.
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