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Eleniel
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 Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:34 am Post subject: seriously, people like sridatta make me question everything |
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I mean, I respect every religions, they are all great, they contain the ideas we all need to learn and practice in life. I don't know whether Jejus was really a son of God, but his ideas are great enough to make me read the Bible sometimes. Siddhartha has enlightened much people about love and equality, how every things are related. And his thoughts are still very true these days, how we should respect each other and even the nature. Muhammad is not a horned devil as some people make him to be - he worshipped his god, loved his people, preached ideas which is also filled with love. And there are so many other religions which are just awesome. If they weren't, they woulddn't have existed so long. And I value them all. But people like sridatta, who claim his/her religion is everything sometimes make me question my belief. Are religions really worth existing
? Are they really worth all the self-righteousness and hatred toward each other? It's people, people filled with prejudice who ruin the true beauty of these religions. |
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sridatta
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: seriously, people like sridatta make me question everyth |
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| Eleniel wrote: |
I mean, I respect every religions, they are all great, they contain the ideas we all need to learn and practice in life. I don't know whether Jejus was really a son of God, but his ideas are great enough to make me read the Bible sometimes. Siddhartha has enlightened much people about love and equality, how every things are related. And his thoughts are still very true these days, how we should respect each other and even the nature. Muhammad is not a horned devil as some people make him to be - he worshipped his god, loved his people, preached ideas which is also filled with love. And there are so many other religions which are just awesome. If they weren't, they woulddn't have existed so long. And I value them all. But people like sridatta, who claim his/her religion is everything sometimes make me question my belief. Are religions really worth existing
? Are they really worth all the self-righteousness and hatred toward each other? It's people, people filled with prejudice who ruin the true beauty of these religions. |
I do not belong to any particular religion. I belong equally to all religions. Infact I am not religious but spiritual.
Religion is like a medium of instruction and spirituality is the curriculum. One can get doctorate degree through any medium and a doctorate will be respected by all over the world equally. Thus we should pursue to reach higher levels in spirituality in our own religion. Nobody need not change his religion. Change of religion is moving horizontally and moving to higher classes in spiritual curriculum is moving vertically, which is only called growth. Spirituality is beyond religion. Infact any true divine preacher never confined to any one particular religion, caste, creed etc, because all require God.
When God enters the soul and body of His most beloved devotee (son of God), such devotee is called as the human incarnation. In the human incarnation, we find both God and Son of God mixed with each other in a perfect homogeneous state so that both are inseparable like the wire and the current in the live wire. The wire is the Son of God and current is God. The live wire is the human incarnation. The live wire must be treated as the current and there is no alternative way to experience the existence of current.
In this context, the misunderstanding arises. The live wire says that it is moving the fan. In fact, the current is speaking this through the wire. People misunderstand that the bloody wire is boasting about itself as itself moving the fan. The live wire looks like any other wire as far as the properties of the wire (metallic nature, leanness, etc.,) are concerned. This makes other wires to think that the live wire is also an ordinary wire without current, which is boasting about itself. This confusion lead to the crucifixion of Jesus by the public.
When Jesus claimed that He is the truth, the light and the Father of the heaven, this claim was not from the Son of God, but it was from God Himself. But, the observers have misunderstood this statement as that of Jesus. When the speaker is invisible, the mike looks as if it is speaking by itself. Here, at any time the speaker is not converted into mike or the current is not converted into wire. The two units exist separately even during the time of the human incarnation in which, both are homogeneously mixed to form a single phase. If this point is realized, Jesus might have escaped the crucifixion. It is this point, which is stressed by Mohammed. He said that God would never become human being or the vice-versa. This does not mean that the Son of God should not be treated as God in the human incarnation by the devotees.
If you deny this assumption of treating the Son of God as God, the devotees become dissatisfied because they prayed God for the experience of God and service to God. Then the very purpose of the human incarnation is lost. Mohammed clarified this concept to avoid the danger. But, His followers misunderstood that He denied the very concept of human incarnation. Thus Buddha and Mohammed should be taken as the preachers who warned about the reality of the concept to avoid the danger of loosing the highest fruit and punishing the human incarnation respectively. The followers have extrapolated the preaching and as a result, Buddhists thought that God does not exist and Muslims thought that the human incarnation does not exist.
The concept of human incarnation is introduced and explained well by Krishna in the Gita and Jesus in the Bible. Krishna says that God enters the human being and Jesus says that God is in flesh. This clearly means that God is neither the human being nor the flesh at any time. Buddha and Mohammed clarified the misunderstandings of the human beings about this concept. Buddha indicated God as unimaginable through silence and Mohammed indicated God as invisible. The desire to become God comes generally, when God is seen by eyes in human form.
Generally, the concept of human incarnation is avoided only to avoid the birth of this desire to become God. When God is invisible, generally the human tendency is to get some benefit from the invisible God and not to become God. But, Alas! The Advaitin has not left even the invisible God! He wants to become even that invisible God! Why becoming God? He claims that he is already God. For this, he proposed that God is the invisible awareness (soul), which exists in his body mixed with qualities, which is called as the individual soul (jeeva). He proposed that simple filtration of qualities from the soul will yield the absolute God because according to him God is pure awareness without qualities. The Advaitin gave his own false concept of God and also his own false way to become God. |
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