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www0935
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 Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:25 pm Post subject: to or for |
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The following is my question:
�Don�t let anything get you down,� is Kacey�s heartfelt advice ______ whoever works hard to reach his goal.
(A) to (B) at (C) from (D) for
The answer is (A), but how about (D)? Is there any difference between their meanings?
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IanT
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:22 am Post subject: |
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In this case, both ok, no difference in meaning.
Other sentences, you can only have one or the other.
E.g. I've got some advice for you.
The advice I would give to you is ...
Hope helps,
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Tao
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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to WHOMEVER...
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IanT
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:39 am Post subject: |
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This is an area where English is evolving. Personally, I regret it, because I love whom and whomever, even whomsoever, and I love all that formal correctness!
But in ESL textbooks these days we find who and whoever being used in their place to an ever increasing degree.
Anyway, that's why I didn't correct it, much as I would have liked to. 
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Tao
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Anyway, that's why I didn't correct it, much as I would have liked to.
It's a suggestion�let it be�
cheers, dude
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2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Tao wrote: |
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No, "whoever" is correct, because "whoever" is the subject of the clause 'whoever works hard to reach his goal.' That takes precedence over the object of "to".
'Give it to whoever deserves it.'
'Give it to whoever you think deserves it.' |
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Tao
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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No, "whoever" is correct, because "whoever" is the subject of the clause 'whoever works hard to reach his goal.' That takes precedence over the object of "to".
'Give it to whoever deserves it.'
'Give it to whoever you think deserves it.'
Sorry, do a little more research. Whomever is the correct use in the two sentences you posed. I do believe whomever is an "object", whoever is a "subject"� Try replacing whoever/whomever with an pronoun�subject pronoun he or object pronoun him� The word TO begins a prep phrase�
�and that's all I have to say about that!
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2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, do a little more research. Whomever is the correct use in the two sentences you posed. �and that's all I have to say about that![/quote]
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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OK, thanks�
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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OK, thanks�
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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"To" sounds more natural.
Below is a discussion on who/whom, whoever/whomever. Note the last sentence.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/who
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I just want to weigh in on the side of 2006: It is whoever in this case, just as he said.
Yes, a lot of times people use who instead of whom, but in this case, it's who, no doubt about it.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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If your talking about an object wouldn't whomever be the correct form in example above? I think "whoever" would go in as the subject.
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