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What’s your opinion?

[Isaac Sadaqah]

this is a very complicated question to answer

[Assambar]

I don't know whether he exists or even whether I do. I am confused about that
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[stellara]

Hey Mr Admiral

truly spoken, really
I agree mostly with your opinion (not only in this theme I saw) and I really do think that discussing about such a controversial issue as "is there a god" or "do you believe in god" is kind of useless.. because nearly everyone has his/her own opinion - which is good! - and either isn't interested in discussing it or tries to convince someone else.
and often it ends up in a real arguement because two (or more) true pigheads - - meet and then... ---

see ya, many greets,
Sarah
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[mat1979]

there is no god, only a bunch of fools

that's not what i think, that's merely the truth

[writpetition]

God is a name for a thing that is not material. It is not anything yet is everything.
God is the thing that the eye cannot see, nor the ear hear, nor the skin touch, nor the nose smell, nor the tongue taste - and yet it is that which causes the eye to see, ear to hear, skin to touch, nose to smell and tongue to taste.

God is the core of everything in all that is and is not.

[mat1979]

there is no higher existence, only a bunch of fools

that's not what i think, that's merely the truth




well, you made me insist
don't take it badly

[stellara]

hi mat

no I think it's just your opinion what you are saying - not because I don't think that you're able to decide yourself what your opinion is or not, but because it is neither proven that there is a god nor that there is no god!

it is true that the scientists were able to explore the sky and the atmosphere above and even a (very little) piece of the universe and they truly found no god
but I think if there really is a god somewhere out there he (or maybe she ) cannot be explored or found by scientists. I think 'god' is more a kind of --believe, something that exists in our heads not in the outside world. I myself do not believe in any of the usual (if I can say that) religion believes but I do really think that there have to be a kind of superior might (should I say 'force' or 'power' here??) because there are still so many things that happen and from which we don't know a thing about that it may be easier to believe that there is a superior might than to try to explain it with some physical forces or reactions or whatever.

I think that the believe in god comes from the fear of deathand from our total lack of knowledge about the existence or non-existence after death. for most people it is really hard to believe that they would not 'live' anymore when they die. for me personally it would be unbearable if I knew that after death I could never think or live/... anymore, never and never again.

for some people religion is (unfortunately) only some kind of an 'every day - excuse' for everything they do. I believe they are often very religious people (maybe fanatics) and these people are often very strict and are picking every single word in the bible or the koran/... so that its proper meaning is totally contorted. that is why I don't believe in the usual religions and I do think that the bible/koran/.. is 'only' some kind of guideline for our life, see: you should steal etc.
and - at last - I can't understand people who act or who do sth and then say they have done it because the bible/koran does say it. even, how can a man kill another human being just because it stands in the bible/koran or just because he has a different belive in god????
that is a thing I will never ever understand....

so that was my monologue... hope it's not too much

greets, Sarah

ps: @Mr Admiral yes I know that there are many woman called 'Sarah' but what does that say?? I don't understand what you want to say! and I think that there are lots more people called 'Katharina' or 'Sandra'...
ciao
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[Assambar]

What do you mean by GOD?
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[stellara]

hi Assambar,

do you mean me or is this a general question?!

if you mean me, I wrote my opinion above I think in the middle..

ciao, Sarah
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[Assambar]

Hey Sarah,
I would like to hear your oppinion on what I think on the matter of God. You can find it as the last message in the topic 'what???'
I would be glad to have your opinion;)
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[technomaniac_tzp]

I am an out and out atheist. I do not believe in the existance of God. Of course, since my parents are Hindu I automatically qualify as a Hindu. But I don't follow and of the rites.

I have various reasons to not believe in God. Firstly, had there been a God, would so many people have died in 9/11 or other such attacks. Would Muslims have been slaughtered in Gujrat(India) by the Hindus? If God is so powerful and righteous, why do innocent people die? Just give me one good and wholly logical answer to that.

Yes, we dont know how big the universe is. But this is science. Science does not claim anything on the basis of mere belief. It needs proof. Once something is proved beyond doubt, science accepts it. Moreover recent research tells us the universe is round, it has not end. Of course the question still exists what lies beyond the universe. May be there lies Christ/Allah/Brahma etc. But science has kept the question open. But all we know about God is mere speculation. You believe in God because you parents believed and your parents do because their parents did. None of them have seen God.

Yes there are certain circumstances which cannot be explained and defy our logic. But it is foolish to regard it as the work of some supernatural powerjust because we have no answer or proper explanation. Instead we should try to find an answer. We may not have one today but eventually we will.

In fact, God or religion is merely a tool too frighten people. This way a group of people can control other ignorant people by employing the fear of God. I think that only people you do not have believe in ther own judgement and abilities, believe in God. They trust some non-existant power to come to their help but it never does. But when something turns up they regard it as the work of God.
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[elbharat]

Hello Guys,

This topic is not new. someone has already asked and i answered it. This time read the new one. Hindu mythology says that the creator is god while the next chepter says that after a dooms day, nothing will be existed not even GOD!!!

Not even our forefathers were certain about existence, not I belive it untill the Scientific appruval comes.

Bye

[stellara]

Hi people

unfortunately I haven't so much time but I just wanted to comment this above a little.

yes, it's right that this issue is really not new but just I thought about an aspect. mostly everybody here assume that 'god' have to be some kind of a person or a superior force who/which is able to intervene in human fate, who is able to prevent damage or injuries, pain and death.

but what if 'god' is more a supervisor, an advisor, a person who sees our whole life and sometimes can give us a little help or an advice how to get over difficult situations and sth., but somebody who cannot intervene in our lifes? how about that?! I mean there is definitely the famous human 'sense of free will', we can decide ourselves what we want to do and what not. I don't believe in destiny, I should add

I know it maybe sounds kind of funny and I didn't expressed my thought very good but maybe you can understand what I mean!! *hope*

later I'll look what's your opinion to that!
ciao, Sarah
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