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Simon_23
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject: prepositions again |
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Hey,
Could you explain to me one thing.
There are examples of my problem:
-A bird beat its wings against the wires.
-A bird thrust its beak into the piece of grass.
-He kissed it with its beak.
-Eat it with your fingers.
-They adorned it with flowers.
-They covered it with flowers.
I can't understand why a preposition with occurs and why it sometimes doesn't.
I would like to say but I don't know in what way:
I dig with a spade, or I dig a spade,
I hold it with fingers, or by fingers or my fingers.
And can I say:
Eat it yours fingers.
Thanks in advance,
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Bob S.

Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1767 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: prepositions again |
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Simon_23 wrote: |
I can't understand why a preposition with occurs and why it sometimes doesn't.
I would like to say but I don't know in what way:
I dig with a spade, or I dig a spade,
I hold it with fingers, or by fingers or my fingers.
And can I say:
Eat it yours fingers. |
In this case, with (or by) functioning as an adverb. With answers the question: how? If you ask the question: what? then you don't use a preposition (because you would then be using a direct object or other noun).
For example:
I dig.
What do you dig?
I dig the soil.
How do you dig?
I dig with a spade.
Put it together...
I dig the soil with a spade.
So, your statement: Eat.
Eat how?
Eat with your fingers.
Eat what?
Eat it.
Put it together...
Eat it with your fingers.
Your statement: I hold.
You hold how?
I hold by my fingers.
Hold what?
Hold it.
Put it together...
I hold it by my fingers.
Prepositions will answer questions: how, where, when, which and function as adverbs or adjectives. |
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river1974
Joined: 20 May 2003 Posts: 525 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Is there any difference between the following examples?
(a)John was killed with a stone.
(b)John was killed by a stone.
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BMO
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 705
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:52 am Post subject: |
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I think there is a difference. Killed with a stone is certainly done by a person, whereas killed by a stone can be by a falling stone from the sky, mudslides. My opinion.
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Bob S.

Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1767 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:42 am Post subject: |
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BMO wrote: |
I think there is a difference. Killed with... killed by... |
Makes sense to me.  |
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river1974
Joined: 20 May 2003 Posts: 525 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. I've never thought it that way.  |
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