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by JuanTwoThree
Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:21 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: too or either
Replies: 16
Views: 4508

Just back from a walk. It's -5ºC and snowing and I've blown my nose clear of any impediments to my judgement. But I just don't get it. It's nothing personal, as I'm sure you understand, nor is it a dig at AmE in general. I suppose it is AmE: http://www.eslcafe.com/grammar/conversational_language16.h...
by JuanTwoThree
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:32 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: too or either
Replies: 16
Views: 4508

Almost all the time I rejoice in the diversity of English and champion usage over prescription. But there are limits ( such as "didn't used to") and I have to say that "Me either" is well up the list of things that I'm bound to accept on the grounds of usage but that at the same grate on some part o...
by JuanTwoThree
Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:56 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Quick Spelling Test
Replies: 12
Views: 2933

My innate modesty and unwillingness to brag do not allow me to tell you my 'score'. Though "score" may be a clue!

Sorry, yoda, it's obviously not something I can help you with.
by JuanTwoThree
Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:27 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Modal stacking
Replies: 6
Views: 2722

I think I've got a pretty good handle on the rules governing how modals behave, but thanks for the exhaustive link all the same. Between your assertion that modal stacking is not a feature of Southern American English and: Boertien, Harmon. 1986. “Constituent Structure of Double Modals,” in Language...
by JuanTwoThree
Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:40 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Why is this sentence wrong?
Replies: 21
Views: 4768

You may be right. I'll concede that your friend B is an off-duty inspector for the "Good Lakes Guide" who is not a bit pompous. Well, slightly.
by JuanTwoThree
Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:11 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Why is this sentence wrong?
Replies: 21
Views: 4768

The problem is that your 3) and 4) sound like a slightly pompous inspector from "The Good Lake Guide".
by JuanTwoThree
Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:46 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Why is this sentence wrong?
Replies: 21
Views: 4768

The original sentence is missing an "out".
by JuanTwoThree
Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:20 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Learned or Learnt
Replies: 8
Views: 2491

There is nevertheless a subtle difference between a spelling change with a small pronunciation difference: burned/burnt learned/learnt (leaving aside "my learnéd friend") and so on and a whopping great difference in pronunciation: leaned/leant dreamed/dreamt leaped/leapt/lept. The verbs in the first...
by JuanTwoThree
Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:47 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: obtained to be
Replies: 4
Views: 1351

Either Google is a bit strange or I'm stupid. For "results were obtained to be" it says 691.000 but there are only three pages at the bottom plus when you start scrolling it gives up at 21 hits. "Values were obtained to be" taps out at 49 although initially claiming 400,000 hits. You can get it to 1...
by JuanTwoThree
Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:53 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: The Imperative strikes back.
Replies: 5
Views: 1467

The Imperative strikes back.

Do you think that this is tolerable?

"He said he would punish me if I didn't be quiet"


By "tolerable" I mean "How much does it make you wince?" not "Is it right?" and:

"I'll punish you if you don't be quiet"

?

I think it's an echo of "Don't be ____!", which makes us drop our guard a little.
by JuanTwoThree
Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:43 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Spoken: when did you last (took/take)...?
Replies: 7
Views: 5524

"Do-support" became almost completely ubiquitous from around the 16th to the 18th century so what you can remember probably predates or imitates a time before its prevalence. What most obviously held out against it were modal verbs and less obviously some verbs, all modally in meaning, like "I hope ...
by JuanTwoThree
Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:53 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Spoken: when did you last (took/take)...?
Replies: 7
Views: 5524

Heath, there's certainly no Standard English that accepts double pasts, but they are widespread in other Englishes, the ones which are "wrong" if you like. Your point about the two forms of an open question is interesting, Macavity. It must be something to do with marking, Theme/Rheme and may be con...
by JuanTwoThree
Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:32 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Learned or Learnt
Replies: 8
Views: 2491

Me too. But I wonder if I wouldn't almost always favour "burnt toast". It's worth pointing out that /l/ and /m/ and /n/ don't have unvoiced equivalents so you can't ruin the pronunciation of the final consonant of the root by pronouncing spelled, spoiled, spilled, learned and burned with a final /t/...
by JuanTwoThree
Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:20 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Modal stacking
Replies: 6
Views: 2722

Well, modal stacking is said to be a feature of Southern American English. The very first google hit for "modal stacking" is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_American_English and for something more reputable there are references here http://www.utm.utoronto.ca/~halldani/hall.generals.2001.pdf a...
by JuanTwoThree
Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:57 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Modal stacking
Replies: 6
Views: 2722

Modal stacking

Coming across "might ought to" gave me pause for thought. Firstly it's particularly useful as a tentative suggestion that something is a very good idea. Secondly it's staggeringly widespread: Guess how many Google hits it gets before you look. Don't cheat. And very few of them are from lists of moda...