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by lolwhites
Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:35 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Can and will
Replies: 39
Views: 12655

The will may not be necessary, but surely it affects the meaning quite drastically. Without it, the letter is saying "Let us know if you can't keep the appointment to enable us to offer the slot to someone else and give you a new one", with it the letter says "...enable us to offer the slot to someo...
by lolwhites
Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:10 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Hi I am new! And question about "make [something] look&
Replies: 9
Views: 4033

Grammatically, how is this different from any other make someone/something do construction? The wind made the tree fall over = The wind caused the tree to fall over The teacher made the kids do lines = The teacher caused the kids to do lines The dress makes her look fat = The dress causes her to loo...
by lolwhites
Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:35 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: voiced/unvoiced - the real story?
Replies: 41
Views: 21155

During the first year of my linguistics degree we were told that /b/, /p/ etc were !"oral stops" and /m/, /n/ etc were "nasal stops". In the second year "nasal stops" became "nasals" and "oral stops" became "plosives". Not sure why they did this, maybe it was to make us aware that the place of artic...
by lolwhites
Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:46 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Why Everyone Should Study Linguistics
Replies: 68
Views: 95660

I certainly think it's the case that new ideas can be acceptaed far too uncritically by practitioners and policymakers: NLP, Multiple Intelligences and Learning Styles immediately spring to mind. But I don't see that as having being a problem with Applied Linguistics, but rather a failure by teacher...
by lolwhites
Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:27 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: voiced/unvoiced - the real story?
Replies: 41
Views: 21155

I recall various demonstration from the Phonetics component of my Linguistics degree where a mask was placed over a volunteer's mouth and nose to measure airflow, with a microphone or electrodes on the throat to measure voicing. This made it possible to accurately measure when plosives were released...
by lolwhites
Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:07 am
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: voiced/unvoiced - the real story?
Replies: 41
Views: 21155

With stops, there can be no voicing (there's no air flow) in the build up/initial release stage, so I don't like the "halfway through" idea. It's more during the "follow through" stage that the voicing kicks in. It's a short period, but definitely measurable. In French and Spanish, as you rightly p...
by lolwhites
Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:25 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: voiced/unvoiced - the real story?
Replies: 41
Views: 21155

But my initial argument is that d isn't voiced, it just lacks aspiration, so I'd like to find a rephrasing of lol's argument! (and anyway, since a U.S medial t is "voiced" you would have to explain the vowel length depending on the theoretical underlying form and not the actual "voicing" ) As to th...
by lolwhites
Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:12 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: voiced/unvoiced - the real story?
Replies: 41
Views: 21155

The existence of allophones raises the question of "what's the underlying form?". Is it aspirated /p/ or unaspirated? That's why during the final year of my Linguistics degree, the phonetics lecturers started calling into question whether phonemes actually existed, or whether it's more accurate to t...
by lolwhites
Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:39 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: New lesson plan involving baseball bat
Replies: 4
Views: 2128

Trauma to Life
by lolwhites
Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:27 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: voiced/unvoiced - the real story?
Replies: 41
Views: 21155

What you get in a dictionary can be a kind of hybrid between the phonetic and the phonemic. For example, I've often seen the /r/ in car presented as a kind of diacritic to reflect the fact that many British English speakers don't pronounce it unless followed by a vowel. If you were to put in all the...
by lolwhites
Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:22 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: voiced/unvoiced - the real story?
Replies: 41
Views: 21155

My point about aspiration and voiceless consonants was that the sounds are allophones; /p/, /t/ and /k/ are realised at the surface in different ways depending on the phonological environment. Their voiced equivalents are still different, though. If you recorded someone uttering the words beach, d1c...
by lolwhites
Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:48 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: voiced/unvoiced - the real story?
Replies: 41
Views: 21155

Aspiration can't be the distinguishing feature either. The /k/ in skill , the /p/ in speech and the /t/ in stick aren't aspirated - if you don't believe me, say the words with a sheet of paper in front of your mouth and see how much it moves. In fact, if you record a native speaker saying the words,...
by lolwhites
Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:36 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Participate IN & Participate AT
Replies: 3
Views: 2388

For me, Agassi participated in Wimbledon = he participated in the competition we usually refer to as "Wimbledon", while Agassi participated at Wimbledon = he participated in something that was taking place in a place called Wimbledon - probably the tennis competition (as we know he's a tennis player...
by lolwhites
Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:18 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: Most popular posters? "Stats"
Replies: 14
Views: 28711

Yeah, well I did quite a bit of fanning myself. He probably wouldn't have been number one poster if you and I hadn't insisted on not letting him have the last word, but it probably pushed us up the table too! What I wonder is if anyone else bothered to read the threads after the first couple of pages.
by lolwhites
Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:53 pm
Forum: Applied Linguistics
Topic: how many new words per lesson
Replies: 27
Views: 14190

Without wanting ot be too disrespectful to iain, it strikes me as the question a bean-counting senior manager would ask. A lot will depend on whether your one-hour lesson's aims are primarily lexical, structural, phonological, skills based or whatever. There's probably an upper limit to how many lex...