grammar question
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:56 pm
"he has lived in korea for ten years" does this sentence mean that he is no longer live in korea????
Siân
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:40 am
No, he is still living there!
Siân
Siân
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:23 am
"He has lived in Korea for ten years" means he started living in Korea ten years ago, and has continued living there up until now.
"He lived in Korea for ten years" means he lived in Korea in the past for a period of ten years, but you don't know which ten years it was.
"He lived in Korea for ten years" means he lived in Korea in the past for a period of ten years, but you don't know which ten years it was.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 7:46 am
He lived in Korea for 10 years also means he does not live there anymore 
Siân
Siân
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 3:53 pm
Right! 
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 5:50 am
Well, I like the way Lorikeet put it the first time.
It is at least possible, you must agree, that he lived in Korea for a period of ten years, then moved away for some period of time, and has now moved back to Korea. His friend is having a conversation with another person and says, "He lived..." So, we may not definitely conclude that he necessarily does not live in Korea at the moment.
Larry Latham
It is at least possible, you must agree, that he lived in Korea for a period of ten years, then moved away for some period of time, and has now moved back to Korea. His friend is having a conversation with another person and says, "He lived..." So, we may not definitely conclude that he necessarily does not live in Korea at the moment.
Larry Latham
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 8:59 am
@Larry depending on the context you are right.
However IMHO simple past is used for something that is over.
Siân
However IMHO simple past is used for something that is over.
Siân
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 10:07 am
"He lived in Korea for ten years before discovering the beauty of the east coast."
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 4:57 pm
Neil: Yes, your sentence does raise the possibility of his living there (on the east coast) now. Of course you've added more data to do that.
Sian: I'm not familiar with the terminology, "IMHO simple past." Can you tell me what IMHO means? Thanks.
I guess we've all beaten this pretty much to death!!!
Larry Latham
Sian: I'm not familiar with the terminology, "IMHO simple past." Can you tell me what IMHO means? Thanks.
I guess we've all beaten this pretty much to death!!!
Larry Latham
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 5:03 pm
IMHO = In my humble opinion.LarryLatham wrote:Sian: I'm not familiar with the terminology, "IMHO simple past." Can you tell me what IMHO means?
Iain
IMHO
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 4:59 pm
Ahhhh, thanks Iain. I guess my age is showing. If I'm to play this game, I guess I'll have to bone up on the jargon.
Larry Latham
P.S. Sian, I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with you about the meaning of the choice of Simple Past Tense by a user. But let's reserve that argument for another time and place.
It's too far from the original poster's question, which concerns use of retrospective form, in particular, Present Perfect.
Larry Latham
P.S. Sian, I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with you about the meaning of the choice of Simple Past Tense by a user. But let's reserve that argument for another time and place.
It's too far from the original poster's question, which concerns use of retrospective form, in particular, Present Perfect. Re: IMHO
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 5:16 pm
There some info at: http://kb.indiana.edu/data/adkc.htmlLarryLatham wrote:Ahhhh, thanks Iain. I guess my age is showing. If I'm to play this game, I guess I'll have to bone up on the jargon.
Don't what you mean by showing your age - I've been using these terms for over 10 years. Eek!
Iain