Help! EFL teaching in a UK secondary school - advice needed

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too'ard
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Help! EFL teaching in a UK secondary school - advice needed

Post by too'ard » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:12 pm

Hi

I hope someone can help me! I teach in a UK secondary school which up 'til now had no EFL students at all, but a 15 year old Thai girl has just arrived with practically no English, and I have been asked to withdraw her from lessons once or twice a week and teach her English! I've taught EFL previously but only to large classes, so used games, quizzes, group work, role plays etc. none of which seem appropriate for 1 to 1 - any ideas! She really has only a few words of English, and seems to have very little comprehension. I'm sure I can show her magazines and pictures and teach her nouns like that, and do the time and numbers fairly easily, but something more interesting would be nice!

Many thanks for any suggestions at all!
:D
H

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Post by Duncan Powrie » Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:19 pm

Wow! What an exciting opportunity - but one fraught with peril! You're in the thick of it now, and won't have much time for theorizing.

I'd get a nice, basic, very clear and somewhat repetitive textbook - even if you end up not using it that much, it should give you some idea of how grammar can be sequenced and practiced. Something like the third edition of Side By Side is kind of what I am thinking of here (but be aware that you would need to work through the FOUR volumes to get to a higher intermediate level, and that it may contain a few too many Americanisms for your tastes and purposes). I used it with small classes that often ended up as 1-2-1 (when students couldn't come), and it seemed to do the trick.
http://www.eltnews.com/features/intervi ... sky1.shtml

Alternatively, you might want to get a more "glossy" textbook with audiotapes etc (Side By Side can end up seeming a little divorced from the real, complex real-life world). Perhaps the New Cambridge English Course would be a good choice (because it presents typically "British" situations, accents etc)? I prefer its layout (one page per lesson, eminently achievable) to more recent, flashier contenders, and I think you can trust Michael Swan when it comes to grammar (the vocabulary to be reviewed is also highlighted). Are you going to attempt to forge links with the other school subjects/teachers, by the way (including English Language, and English Literature)?

Talking of Swan, he was one of the authors of Learner English (now in a second edition). I am sure it has a chapter on Thai learners and what difficulties one might predict they will have in learning English (such as pronunciation/making the sounds, grammar/syntax, script/writing systems etc).

For vocabulary, something like CUP's Essential Vocabulary in Use would be useful, at least for review/homework - as would, for grammar, Murphy's Essential Grammar in Use). A nice picture dictionary would be nice, too (Oxford publish several in English/Thai editions).

Regarding pronunciation, don't work at it too hard unless and until it seems necessary (or, if you want to "review" the sounds of English before beginning a textbook, perhaps to e.g. teach the IPA for the more difficult sounds, at least do it snappily!). Cambridge's English Pronunciation in Use looked good, but it may be a little too difficult for beginners and would thus require some adaptation (also just found this when searching for the previous title:)
http://international.ouc.bc.ca/pronunciation/

I know that is a lot of books, and you are more asking for ideas for approaches/lessons for 1-2-1 (besides which, your school may not have any money budgeted for this specific need), but I just got a little worried when you said, "I'm sure I can show her magazines and pictures and teach her nouns like that, and do the time and numbers fairly easily, but something more interesting would be nice!". I think there's gotta be a lot more structure and aims in this girl's learning for her to make consistent, assured progress is all.

Actually, to be honest, I can't really recommend any 1-2-1 methodology books to you; none of the ones presently available really address your specific situation (LTP's concerns more Business English, and Longman's, whilst also interesting, is more for independent expat teachers), time is short as I've said, and to realize wonderful things given this opportunity I guess you've ultimately gotta put the books away and listen to your heart, and this girl! I personally prefer reading books on vocabulary research and acquisition, and leaving the exact pedagogy more "up in the air", at least until key language has been identified, and materials/lessons developed on that basis (there is a natural methodology within the language itself, that is, the contexts in which the language was and is used can and perhaps should be recreated - as far as possible - in "classroom" interaction).

So, I would have or buy something like the above stuff as a minimum, to show committment, help set goals etc, but be ready to set it all aside if the girl seems bright and able to pick up and retain things during more informal encounters. Lastly, even though she is in the UK and there is a lot she HAS TO learn, don't forget where she's from or the power of memory and the imagination.

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Thanks

Post by too'ard » Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:37 pm

:) Thanks for the reply - that was very comprehensive and useful! I put in a request today for the New Cambridge level one books, but I don't hold out much hope of them being purchased for just one student, UK school budgets being what they are (i.e. completely inflexible, with most of the money ring fenced for useless expensive stuff like a plasma screen in the entrance hall, and the head telling me there's no money to by chairs to replace the broken ones in my classroom :x - oops sorry :oops: rant over).

You're right of course the EFL lessons need structure just as much as the GCSE or Key Stage 3 lessons I normally teach, even though they are 1 to 1 not 1 to 31... and should be planned as such, not approached in an ad hoc manner, so I hope I can get the books to help me put a suitable structure in place, otherwise I'll have to try to put a scheme of work together myself - I just wish I could have one ready made, as its likely to be time consuming on top of my normal classes.

By the way to answer your question I will be liasing with the English department informally, as I am an English and media studies teacher anyway, so that's my department.

Thanks for your advice

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oops!

Post by too'ard » Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:41 pm

:oops: Oops I mean buy chairs - call myself an English teacher! :oops: Its been a long day :?

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Re: Thanks

Post by Duncan Powrie » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:20 pm

too'ard wrote:You're right of course the EFL lessons need structure just as much as the GCSE or Key Stage 3 lessons I normally teach, even though they are 1 to 1 not 1 to 31... and should be planned as such, not approached in an ad hoc manner, so I hope I can get the books to help me put a suitable structure in place, otherwise I'll have to try to put a scheme of work together myself - I just wish I could have one ready made, as its likely to be time consuming on top of my normal classes.
The beauty of EFL courses such as The New Cambridge is that a good deal of thought has been given to the sequencing and recycling of the language items that it contains, and the teacher guide gives a fair amount of guidance on how to present the language, set up the activities etc. I am sure that if you can get your hands on the whole range of goodies for level 1 (student book, workbook, teacher guide, tapes etc), you and your student will be in good hands. Once you've become familiar with its content, approach and style, you can easily start adding to if not diverging somewhat from the book's content to take account of the girl's specific interests and needs. Heh but you probably knew all that, you have EFL experience and more besides!

I don't know what books other teachers would recommend for your purposes, it would be interesting to hear what else might be suitable (and perhaps hold back on ordering for a little longer)...

Ooh incidentally there is also an interview with Micahel Swan and Catherine Walter (authors of the above course) at:
http://www.eltnews.com/features/intervi ... ter1.shtml

I really like the sound of Vaughan Jones's books:
http://www.eltnews.com/features/intervi ... nes1.shtml

It's a shame the TEFL Farm doesn't seem to be around anymore (they also had some good interviews)...

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Pronunciation....

Post by revel » Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:21 am

Hey there too'ard and Duncan!

Duncan has offered a good bit of advice, though being a different kind of teacher myself, there is one thing he says that I'd take exception to:

"Regarding pronunciation, don't work at it too hard unless and until it seems necessary"
I myself consider pronunciation not only necessary, but of upmost importance. Let me be clear, I'm not talking about how to pronounce individual sounds or words, but rather specific work on the articulation of English. Your student may be able to memorize or "learn" vocabulary and structure, but if she can't spit it out, it's probable that that material will not be useful or stick when she needs it to communicate with her new linguistic community.

"(or, if you want to "review" the sounds of English before beginning a textbook, perhaps to e.g. teach the IPA for the more difficult sounds,"
...and I certainly would not teach the IPA on top of the regular alphabet, that's just extra information that uses up time and space that might be needed for drill work or repetition of everyday conversations. Pronunciation is a physical activity, not without its intellectual aspect, but finally it's strengthening muscles and gaining agility with articulatory combinations.

".... at least do it snappily!). "
That's right! It has to be done with energy and you have to make sure it is "fun", kids do seem to get bored easily, and this poor girl who doesn't know what you are saying to her might end up staring off into space often in your class.

For more detailed comments, please see my notes in the "Pronunciation" thread here at Dave's. And I suppose you are checking out the ideas in the Idea Cookbook here as well.

peace,
revel.

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Post by Duncan Powrie » Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:00 am

I'm glad I wrote that post at a bit of a rush if it's stimulated a response from somebody, anybody! Also glad to find that somebody is you, revel!

I kind of meant to say "...don't work at it too hard in the initial stages/lessons" (i.e. there will naturally always be some pronunciation work throughout a course, it's just it should be evenly spread out and paced!), but would still stand by continuing with, "and don't spend time on it unless and until it seems necessary".

What is wrong with the last part of that piece of advice? Pronunciation work ultimately comes down to slowly and steadily copying a (slow-piece-faster-)whole model (and what teacher would not always provide a model?!), and when you think about it, probably over 95% of the stuff a student will say can be learnt and "articulated" in these fairly neutral tones for satisfactory communicative results in most conceivable contexts (I am not sure what I would make of a student who began "working it" like Jeff Bridges exclaiming - for want of a sample text - "Forgive me! ForGIVE me!ForGIVE ME!" etc in The Fisher King, or perhaps some of the students you mentioned in your "Interpretative ESL" thread! :lol: ).

Basically, I guess I would prefer to take as "unidiomatic" and "skippedy-ploddedy" an approach as possible to prosody as I ultimately do with the lexicogrammar (and I have yet to read a convincing account of the function of prosody in communication. Maybe Brazil has some answers...or I might just need to go the whole hog and eventually get something like Fox's book:) http://www.linguistlist.org/issues/14/14-1288.html

I've had some intelligent if unexciting conversations with many a "calm" learner.:wink: That being said, I do like the thought of "letting rip" with dramatic histrionics in classes (not sure if all my future students will, though...) :P

Hmm rather than saying "teach the IPA for the more difficult sounds", what I should've perhaps said is "identify which of the phonemes in the/your/her English Learner dictionary's phonemic alphabet chart might be a problem, and be prepared to practise those words in which it will appear more intensively than usual; also try to anticipate any difficult sound-spelling inconsistencies."

Most learners that I have met seem to know the phonemic schemes in their dictionaries pretty well (better than many EFL teachers!), so whether to teach it or not "on top of the regular alphabet" is often thankfully a moot point (but were they not to be familiar with it, I still don't think it would be a total waste of time to spend a little time going through things - pronunciation habits can fade, and a good grasp of the guide can come in handy later, in review/refreshers. For me and my Chinese, this would entail knowing the Pinyin system inside out; without Pinyin as a touchstone, my readings of the Chinese characters would doubtless become pretty deviant!).

Like you say, peace,

Duncan :D
Last edited by Duncan Powrie on Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:12 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Hey!

Post by revel » Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:47 am

Hey there, Duncan!

Thanks for the compliment. I do enjoy bantering things with you and it is certain (take note too'ard) that your bibliographies are thorough and useful. I know what you mean about stimulating response, sometimes we have to stick our foot in it before anyone says anything other than "Help me! I'm Lost!" :)

And you've rectified quite well your earlier comments. I supposed that you were feeling elated from the fermented grain beverages you had consumed. Can't disagree with anything you've said.

Am going to have to look into some stuff before commenting on your comment: "I guess I would prefer to take as "unidiomatic" and "skippedy-ploddedy" an approach as possible to prosody as I ultimately do with the lexicogrammar (and I have yet to read a convincing account of the function of prosody in communication.", sounds like a good start for an interesting exchange of ideas. Give me a couple of days, starting classes day after tomorrow and am currently ironing out details for work.

Yes, as I always say:

peace (sounds less mushy than "love" and is more to my point! :D )
revel.

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Re: Hey!

Post by Duncan Powrie » Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:45 am

revel wrote:Am going to have to look into some stuff before commenting on your comment: "I guess I would prefer to take as "unidiomatic" and "skippedy-ploddedy" an approach as possible to prosody as I ultimately do with the lexicogrammar (and I have yet to read a convincing account of the function of prosody in communication.", sounds like a good start for an interesting exchange of ideas. Give me a couple of days, starting classes day after tomorrow and am currently ironing out details for work.
I've kind of expanded upon this a bit in the "Interpretative ESL" thread (in the Applied Linguistics forum, for whoever might be interested besides revel!), maybe we should switch over to there to continue this? :P

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Schemes of Work for IGCSE

Post by robfpa » Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:54 pm

Hi all,

I am at my wits end trying to meet a very demanding boss's request to have schemes of work for the IGCSE (English as a second language) exam. It's British curriculum, which I have never touched before and she expects years 1-5 schemes to be completed within a week.
Basically, I'm begging anyone who has this sort of experience to drop me a line so i can copy/adjust their work. Thanks, Rob.

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