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Cranky Reinke · Post by **Cranky Reinke** » Thu May 31, 2007 4:55 pm

I did already (see earlier post).

Also,
"A Call to Power" or "A Call to Courage" or "A Call to Action" or "A Call to Arms" (as a title of a religious, military, political, et al. program)

"This example illustrates using Visual C++ to access and return data by a call to a stored procedure." (computer technology)

"In the event you do still wish to transfer a call to someone not online...." (Skype)

Cranky Reinke · Post by **Cranky Reinke** » Thu May 31, 2007 4:58 pm

Noun or verb form -- call = call = call. The meaning is clear.

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Thu May 31, 2007 9:09 pm

Cranky Reinke wrote:Noun or verb form -- call = call = call. The meaning is clear.

Are you saying that call only has one meaning?

What will you call your baby?
Call him. His name's Fido. He'll come.
Call him. Here's his number.
I call at his house on the way.
Would you call him a close friend?
He's called at meeting for nine o'clock.

Cranky Reinke · Post by **Cranky Reinke** » Thu May 31, 2007 9:36 pm

No, I said the meaning is clear [each time "call" is used].

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:12 pm

Cranky Reinke wrote:No, I said the meaning is clear [each time "call" is used].

Do you understand why there is "to" in the first example, but not in the second?

I'll make a call to Jon on his mobile.
I'll call Jon on his mobile.

Cranky Reinke · Post by **Cranky Reinke** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:25 am

lolwhites · Post by **lolwhites** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:49 am

Do you see any difference in meaning between these two, or think one is wrong?

I called Rover and he came.
I called to Rover and he came.

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:39 am

lolwhites wrote:Do you see any difference in meaning between these two, or think one is wrong?

I called Rover and he came.
I called to Rover and he came.

"Wrong" in which variant?

lolwhites · Post by **lolwhites** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:42 am

"Wrong" in which variant?

Any, although they both sound fine to me.

Stephen Jones · Post by **Stephen Jones** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:57 am

The second does suggest a comfortably PC relationship with your dog. I'm sure you take turns to pour out the port when you and Rover discuss Wittgenstein at night.

lolwhites · Post by **lolwhites** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:05 am

To me they both suggest saying "Rover!", but I think there's a subtle difference that I can't quite put my finger on. Maybe you call someone (or some animal) to get their attention, but you call to them when you want them to come to you.

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:30 am

lolwhites wrote:To me they both suggest saying "Rover!", but I think there's a subtle difference that I can't quite put my finger on. Maybe you call someone (or some animal) to get their attention, but you call to them when you want them to come to you.

I'd say it's the opposite.

"I called to him to get his attention as he was headed to the parking lot. Mr. Souder turned to look and I pointed to the bicycle built for two and said, That's what you should be driving."

http://www.3riversweb.org/Peace/Action.html

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"So I called to him and tried to get his attention away from her and he just bolted at me."

www.cdc.gov.mill1.sjlibrary.org/niosh/d ... olence.pdf

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