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metal56
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Post by metal56 » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:10 am

The word "educated" is a bugbear for many forumites. When used to talk about language use, many see the word has having negative prosody. Here, I post an example of its use. It is from the «English Speaking Union’s ( E.S.U.’s ) Nine-Level Scale».

"Level 9 PRE PROFICIENCY

Has a full command of the language, tackling the most difficult tasks with consistent accuracy, fluency, appropriate usage, organisation and comprehension. An exceptional level of mastery, not always reached by native speakers, even quite educated ones."

How would you explain such an expression as "even quite educated ones" to someone who did not understand its reference and meaning? Who does it refer to?

Stephen Jones
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Post by Stephen Jones » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:27 pm

I don't understand the problem? "Ones" refers to "native speakers". The actual construction is taught in Streamline 1.

metal56
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Post by metal56 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:45 pm

Stephen Jones wrote:I don't understand the problem? "Ones" refers to "native speakers". The actual construction is taught in Streamline 1.
Did you read this part and the title of the thread, Stephen?

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