"being V-ed" or "V-ed"

Miss Elenious · Post by **Miss Elenious** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:33 am

lolwhites wrote:
How about suffer death? Like it?
Hmmm. Can you suffer death? I thought the moment of death was the end of suffering?

nitpick over

It's the beginning if you go to hell...

(he,he)

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:02 am

Miss Elenious wrote:

All the above are possible, but do they have the same meaning? I would say that the first refers to time and the speaker is interested in a chronolohical order of the events. the second, I would analyse it into a relative clause referring to the past = 'who was rejected' and the third one I would analyse it again into a relative close with a reference to the present=' who is suffering from two companies' Am I right?

For me, the order is the same in each

lolwhites · Post by **lolwhites** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:16 pm

To me, suffering rejection sounds more like a description of John Smith's emotional state ("I've been rejected! Bwaaaah!") while the other two simply state that he was rejected.

Miss Elenious · Post by **Miss Elenious** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:02 pm

metal56 wrote:
Miss Elenious wrote:

All the above are possible, but do they have the same meaning? I would say that the first refers to time and the speaker is interested in a chronolohical order of the events. the second, I would analyse it into a relative clause referring to the past = 'who was rejected' and the third one I would analyse it again into a relative close with a reference to the present=' who is suffering from two companies' Am I right?
For me, the order is the same in each

The order of the events is the same in all three but the intention of the speaker?

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:37 pm

Miss Elenious wrote:
The order of the events is the same in all three but the intention of the speaker?

Yes, the intention could be the same in each.