Would any native speaker say 'Has he lunch/dinner, etc?'
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cftranslate
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Would any native speaker say 'Has he lunch/dinner, etc?'
I mean instead of "does he have lunch/dinner?".
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Stephen Jones
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An American might ask, "Does he have lunch?"
With lunch as verb, a better alternative might be "Has he lunched?" That sounds silly to me, but lunch can indeed be used as a verb. There is a famous song by Stephen Sondheim with the title "The Ladies Who Lunch".
Likewise, dinner is a noun; the verb is dine. We would ask, "Has he dined?"
With lunch as verb, a better alternative might be "Has he lunched?" That sounds silly to me, but lunch can indeed be used as a verb. There is a famous song by Stephen Sondheim with the title "The Ladies Who Lunch".
Likewise, dinner is a noun; the verb is dine. We would ask, "Has he dined?"
No. The DO + V question form is used here for the act of breakfasting, lunching and dining.
Therefore either "DOES he HAVE breakfast/lunch/dinner?"
or (very formal) ...
"DOES he BREAKFAST/LUNCH/DINE?" Very formal is also:
"DOES he TAKE B/L/D"
The other meals 'brunch', tea' and 'supper' have no verb-form derived from their names: does he brunch/tea/sup?*
Harzer
Therefore either "DOES he HAVE breakfast/lunch/dinner?"
or (very formal) ...
"DOES he BREAKFAST/LUNCH/DINE?" Very formal is also:
"DOES he TAKE B/L/D"
The other meals 'brunch', tea' and 'supper' have no verb-form derived from their names: does he brunch/tea/sup?*
Harzer
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Stephen Jones
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Re: Would any native speaker say 'Has he lunch/dinner, etc?'
Do you mean in the sense of possess?cftranslate wrote:I mean instead of "does he have lunch/dinner?".
Paraphrased as "Has he a lunch meal in front of him?"
Is that what you mean?
Abbie: Has he lunch?
Betty: Yes, he has. He's eating it right at this moment.
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cftranslate
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I have noticed that in these forum many people whose answers I thank anyway tend to find complex meanings or unsual examples. Well, it has the pompous name 'Applied Linguistics, after all, though I unsuccessfully suggested a change to 'Usage/Grammar Forum some time ago....
What I mean is if in simple question ('dynamic' as somebody said above) such as:
What time do you have lunch every day?
"What time have you lunch every day? or BrE What time has he got lunch every day?" ... are often heard said by native speakers.
They sounded strange to me and just needed confirmation.
What I mean is if in simple question ('dynamic' as somebody said above) such as:
What time do you have lunch every day?
"What time have you lunch every day? or BrE What time has he got lunch every day?" ... are often heard said by native speakers.
They sounded strange to me and just needed confirmation.
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woodcutter
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It was your own fault Cftranslate, because you asked a very ill-formed question.
After all, everybody has lunch, except during Ramadan. Metal did his best to answer the question, and asked you to clarify your meaning, and now you are asking about something which is rather different from the sense you implied before, but still not asking in a very clear manner. The sentences you claim are often heard are not heard at all, in my view. You are also attributing nonsensical sentences to us poor British, as people often do.
Also, I suppose we all want to learn something ourselves, not just provide a free teaching service. Therefore, answers may be complex.
After all, everybody has lunch, except during Ramadan. Metal did his best to answer the question, and asked you to clarify your meaning, and now you are asking about something which is rather different from the sense you implied before, but still not asking in a very clear manner. The sentences you claim are often heard are not heard at all, in my view. You are also attributing nonsensical sentences to us poor British, as people often do.
Also, I suppose we all want to learn something ourselves, not just provide a free teaching service. Therefore, answers may be complex.
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JuanTwoThree
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"What time have you lunch?" NO (I can't agree that it's often heard)
"What time do you have lunch?" YES
Two people looking at the day's rota, in a department store:
"I've got a coffee break at 10.45, I see"
"What time have you got lunch?"
It sounds like an imposition, with a different meaning from "do you have"
It's true that the odd main verb question or negative "have" slips out: "We haven't time" "Have you any idea ........? but perhaps we should maintain the convenient fiction that it doesn't exist for EFL/ESL purposes. Maybe Am E is different, I don't know (I agree with Woodcutter that there seems to be a lot of misinformation about Br E (apparently we never say taxi but always say cab, unless it's the other way round)).
"What time do you have lunch?" YES
Two people looking at the day's rota, in a department store:
"I've got a coffee break at 10.45, I see"
"What time have you got lunch?"
It sounds like an imposition, with a different meaning from "do you have"
It's true that the odd main verb question or negative "have" slips out: "We haven't time" "Have you any idea ........? but perhaps we should maintain the convenient fiction that it doesn't exist for EFL/ESL purposes. Maybe Am E is different, I don't know (I agree with Woodcutter that there seems to be a lot of misinformation about Br E (apparently we never say taxi but always say cab, unless it's the other way round)).
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cftranslate
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Woodcutter, the sense of my question was pretty clear from the beginning.
The rule is, if there's one, is that HAVE (=possess) in BrE is used as an auxiliary in questions and often with GOT while in AmE Do/Did/Will are used to form questions and negatives AND in both BrE and AmE HAVE is used as any other regular verb in sentences like HAVE LUNCH/DINNER/A SHAVE.
I usually ask in this forum for native-speakers advice, what they hear.
As for your comments about a free 'teaching service' I've no idea what you are talking about and I insist that some of the answers in this forum (maybe because of the heading of the forum itself) tend to be too analytical, paying too much attention to linguistic explanations of exceptions or rare uses rather than going to the point of the simple questions asked.
Are you Woodcutter one of those who turns simple questions into elaborate linguistic dissertations? Again Thanks for all your answers, anyway.
The rule is, if there's one, is that HAVE (=possess) in BrE is used as an auxiliary in questions and often with GOT while in AmE Do/Did/Will are used to form questions and negatives AND in both BrE and AmE HAVE is used as any other regular verb in sentences like HAVE LUNCH/DINNER/A SHAVE.
I usually ask in this forum for native-speakers advice, what they hear.
As for your comments about a free 'teaching service' I've no idea what you are talking about and I insist that some of the answers in this forum (maybe because of the heading of the forum itself) tend to be too analytical, paying too much attention to linguistic explanations of exceptions or rare uses rather than going to the point of the simple questions asked.
Are you Woodcutter one of those who turns simple questions into elaborate linguistic dissertations? Again Thanks for all your answers, anyway.
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woodcutter
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Well, Cf, you know it's just that I like this forum, because there is a balance of grammar questions, theory and even a little wit and personality. You can find the kind of thing you want at www.englishforums.com but due to the less colourful nature of the conversation, not so many people seem to post. The same is true of the other parts of Dave's cafe.
I am not generally well read enough to start heavy theoretical discussions, and I'm a hypocrite because I told poor old hamster off for writing an overly complex answer just recently.
As to the matter in hand, your first question implied 'has' as in possession.
It was unclear. That was why Metal was talking about possession.
Although as Juan says, "what time has he got lunch" is possible, I do not think that it can be extended to "what time has he got lunch every day", in Britain or elsewhere.
I am not generally well read enough to start heavy theoretical discussions, and I'm a hypocrite because I told poor old hamster off for writing an overly complex answer just recently.
As to the matter in hand, your first question implied 'has' as in possession.
It was unclear. That was why Metal was talking about possession.
Although as Juan says, "what time has he got lunch" is possible, I do not think that it can be extended to "what time has he got lunch every day", in Britain or elsewhere.