Grammar Question on Noun Clauses

<b>Forum for the discussion of Applied Linguistics </b>

Moderators: Dimitris, maneki neko2, Lorikeet, Enrico Palazzo, superpeach, cecil2, Mr. Kalgukshi2

Post Reply
Pink Piggy
Posts: 28
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2003 3:11 pm
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Grammar Question on Noun Clauses

Post by Pink Piggy » Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:58 pm

We were discussing the following sentence in the staff room the other day:

What he has to do is finish his work.

What I should do is talk to him.

The question is, why do 'finish' and 'talk' take simple form, rather than a gerund or infinitive form? "What I should do" is the noun clause subject, 'is' is the main verb, so what's "finish his work'? What's "talk to him"?

-Gaga over grammar

Harzer
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri May 02, 2003 3:17 am
Location: Australia

Post by Harzer » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:22 am

Hi!

In the first place, "finish his work" and "talk to him" are elaborations of
the verb "do" and so must mimic its form which is 'infinitive'.

These sentences are nothing but roundabout ways of saying: 'he has to finish his work' and 'I should talk to him'. And they are potentially even roundabouter:

What he has to do is he has to finish his work (Y).
What I should do is I should talk to him(Y).

And these can be re-written as:

He has to do something (X) - and that something is - Y
He should do something (X) - and that something is - Y

and so you have the structure <X = Y>
which is a coordinating sentence with two clause-subjects of equal status.

harzer

JuanTwoThree
Posts: 947
Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:30 am
Location: Spain

Post by JuanTwoThree » Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:40 am

Perhaps harder to explain than an apparent ellipsis would be:

"What I did was to write a letter to the manager"

Harzer
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri May 02, 2003 3:17 am
Location: Australia

Post by Harzer » Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:26 pm

I feel that strictly speaking, 'what I did was to write ..." is not entirely sound for this reason, that there is another construction with a quite different meaning, namely:

"What I did was to have a lasting effect"

But, if pushed, I would have to say I prefer "What I did was write ..."

But quite apart from that, it is indeed difficult to explain the infinitive in this position, rather than the simple past, since the simple past is used in the rewrite:
"I did something (and that something was) I wrote to the manager."

On the other hand, saying "What I was doing was writing ..."
is both logical and uniquely acceptable.

Tricky stuff!

Harzer

Post Reply