what do we call a good english teacher?

Reddrose · Post by **Reddrose** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:49 am

this forum is for english teachers. but I am just a humble english learner, I would love to discuss about the qualities of english teachers with you guys.

Everyone has his/her own criteria to judge an english teacher, so do I. here are my criteria about the qualities of a good english teacher.

1) well-mannered
2) no foul language
3) good english
4) respectful
5) generous
6) warm-hearted

what do you think? guys?

lolwhites · Post by **lolwhites** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:28 pm

I assume you mean that the teacher should show these personal qualities in the classroom. Just because we might appear brash, rude or overbearing in here in neither here nor there. We post on this forum in our own time (or, at least, when the DOS's back is turned), we do not offer a free EFL teaching service but rather swap ideas and help and advise students who come here with genuine questions and doubts. Where some of us lose patience is with those who come simply to start arguments.

When I'm in a class doing the job I'm paid to do, I try to exhibit all the qualities you list. When I post on Dave's I reserve the right to be myself, unless the moderator objects.

joshua2004 · Post by **joshua2004** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:37 pm

Why do you ask? I don't want to be rude, but it sounds like you are asking what makes a good "worker". A good teacher could be all of those things or none of those things. A good teacher is effective at helping you learn English even after you have finished the class. Meaning that the teacher was effective at teaching you how to learn a language for you to progress and to continue learning.

I have to admit it takes a certain amount of charisma to accomplish this and it is less likely it will happen if the teacher is a total $*&@&#! but I think you can be a total @$*#*$@ and still be a good teacher to some degree. Even BETTER than a nice teacher who doesn't know how to teach a language or isn't a "good" teacher.

What makes a "good" student?

I accept it when my students are rude, disrespectful people; I still teach them and they still learn. They can be a total @#**@# and still learn a lot. They can still be a "good" student.

You see I don't mean to be rude, but why do you ask? As a teacher I do not want to be judged on one person's assesment of my character as opposed to my abilities to teach. My abilities to teach can be evaluated and are open to criticism, which I welcome. Someone's opinion on whether I am rude, is not. They have the right to thier opinion.

Reddrose · Post by **Reddrose** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:49 pm

joshua2004 wrote: What makes a "good" student?
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maybe we should open another thread to discuss this question.

anyway, thank you guys for answering my question.

Reddrose · Post by **Reddrose** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:00 pm

however, I still think, if an english teacher, who is ill-behaved and rude and always mocks at his students for bad english of his students', then even if he has good english, he still has problem teaching english. because he will cause his students a terrible conception English is rude and foul just like the teacher. despite a misconception, it will still result in a bad consequence in teaching english.

joshua2004 · Post by **joshua2004** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:31 pm

I agree. I think it is wrong for teachers to be rude and especially to mock their students. I have to spend the first few weeks, generally, building trust in the students that I am not going to make fun of their English. Mocking students is counterproductive to learning a language.

Reddrose · Post by **Reddrose** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:38 pm

joshua2004 wrote:I agree. I think it is wrong for teachers to be rude and especially to mock their students. I have to spend the first few weeks, generally, building trust in the students that I am not going to make fun of their English. Mocking students is counterproductive to learning a language.

in that case, I am sure you would be an excellent teacher. I would love to have such an english teacher as joshua2004 who neither mocks nor makes fun of my english skills.

actually, I am a teacher too, not an english teacher, but a medicine teacher as well as a Physician. I am proud to say: I am a popular teacher, because I always praise those advanced students, meantime, I always encourage those slow students, instead of mocking them. I guess that making an excellent english teacher would be the same to make a good medicine teacher .

woodcutter · Post by **woodcutter** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:03 am

Shuntang, do you really think no-one will work out who you are?

Reddrose · Post by **Reddrose** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:18 am

woodcutter wrote:Shuntang, do you really think no-one will work out who you are?

who is Shuntang?

Londo Molari · Post by **Londo Molari** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:33 am

What do we call a good English teacher?

"Rover!"

"Come here Rover! Be a good boy and be nice to all these students! Sit up, Rover! Beg, Rover! There's a good doggie! Play dead, Rover! Here's a treat! Rover! Class time Rover! Play deaf, Rover! Pretend they speak English well, Rover! Rover! Next class, Rover! Wag you tail, Rover! Walkies! Time to please the students by going out with them 'spontaneously' in your own time so they can have free practice like we told you we expected you to during induction Rover! Nice Rover!

Andrew Patterson · Post by **Andrew Patterson** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:34 pm

That might go some of the way towards explaining why one of my DOS's was like a cross between Margret Thatcher and Barbara Woodhouse.

Do younger teachers still know who these people were?

Andrew Patterson · Post by **Andrew Patterson** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:41 pm

Reddrose, I for one am convinced that you are not Shun Tang, I won't rule out the possibility that you are someone else from this forum in masquerade but I'm 100% certain that you aren't Shun.

Reddrose · Post by **Reddrose** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:45 pm

Andrew Patterson wrote:Reddrose, I for one am convinced that you are not Shun Tang, I won't rule out the possibility that you are someone else from this forum in masquerade but I'm 100% certain that you aren't Shun.

But you still didn't tell me who is shuntang

is he/she so outstanding and sexy as me?