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The same?

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:25 am
by fluffyhamster
Can these two sentences absolutely be taught together, or would it be better if they received somewhat differing treatments?

Here's a picture of somebody playing tennis.

Who's the/that boy sitting under the tree?

Re: The same?

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:10 am
by metal56
fluffyhamster wrote:Can these two sentences absolutely be taught together, or would it be better if they received somewhat differing treatments?

Here's a picture of somebody playing tennis.

Who's the/that boy sitting under the tree?
Not better, not worse, IMO. It depends on what you want the student to focus on.

EG

Sentence heads.

Here's a + noun

Here's a man who knows what he's talking about.
Here's a penny for your thoughts.
Here's another question from Fluff. :wink:

No reason to teach the other sentence in that context.

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:45 am
by Anuradha Chepur
Here's a picture of somebody (who is) playing tennis.

Who's the/that boy (who is) sitting under the tree?

There is an omitted subject (relative pronoun) plus auxiliary in both.
Probably you can teach them together.

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:18 am
by fluffyhamster
Yes, "omitted" RPs/"reduced" relative clauses. But how about when a proposition/info that e.g. "Bob (is/=) playing tennis" is expressed thus: 'I saw Bob playing tennis'? Or 'I saw a man walk(ing) his dog (all day)' etc.

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:08 pm
by lolwhites
I saw Bob playing tennis sounds ambiguous to me. Probably Bob was playing tennis and not the speaker, but it reminds me of when my schoold headmaster angrily announced "I saw a sandwich walking down the corridor!"