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Time to teach killable, etc?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:40 am
by metal56
Should I begin teaching killable, suffocatable, murderable, etc? Is it time to do so?

Women in Love by DH Lawrence:

"It takes two people to make a murder: a murderer and a murderee. And a murderee is a man who is murderable. And a man who is murderable is a man who in a profound if hidden lust desires to be murdered."

And:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victimology

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:26 am
by Anuradha Chepur
No way. Not in an ESL/EFL context.

You can teach them as jargon to psychiatrists and the like.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:28 am
by metal56
Anuradha Chepur wrote:No way. Not in an ESL/EFL context.

You can teach them as jargon to psychiatrists and the like.
Some of my students are psychiatrists. :wink:

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:25 pm
by JuanTwoThree
I've always thought it's a very useful thing that -able, and I can prove it

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/teacher/v ... &view=next

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:13 am
by Stephen Jones
It's an excellent opportunity to talk about the morphability of English!

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:50 am
by Jimbobob
I love teaching prefixes and suffixes. It's such a great way to expand vocabulary fast. With my level students I stick to simple things like -er though I don't see why teaching these things would ever be considered a bad thing. Play a game of boggle, but set a list of prefixes and suffixes, and let students add them to words they get for more points. It's pretty impressive how they can start racking up words.

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:38 am
by metal56
Surprise?

A Clubbable Woman (Dalziel & Pascoe Novel) by Reginald Hill (Author).

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:20 am
by JuanTwoThree

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:29 am
by metal56
Unbeatable Roma?

LOL!

7-1

Up the Reds!
.....

How's the weather near you, Juan? In the Basque country, it's amazing today.

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:46 am
by metal56
With my level students I stick to simple things like -er though I don't see why teaching these things would ever be considered a bad thing.
Interesting thing, the -er suffix. Ryder (1997) feels the semantics of -er is being bleached, i.e. is "gradually losing its agentive (causative) meaning".

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:52 am
by JuanTwoThree
The cloud is burning off and it's going to be another scorcher here in La Rioja. I think.

Just heard that the vines are one month ahead of schedule. And I swam three weeks ago at Zarautz and last November at Bakio, so global warming is not all bad! Mind you I was bitten by a mosquito last night so it has its downside as well.

Any more weather reports from round the world?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:25 am
by metal56
I love Zarautz. We have a summer home in Mundaka. Do you know Mundaka?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:50 pm
by JuanTwoThree
Mundaka? I like that odd first floor restaurant above some fishery offices though it looks like the foyer of a sixties cinema. But the set menu is good value, decor apart.

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:44 pm
by metal56
JuanTwoThree wrote:Mundaka? I like that odd first floor restaurant above some fishery offices though it looks like the foyer of a sixties cinema. But the set menu is good value, decor apart.
The Casino, as its called. Try bar Los Txopos if you are in Mundaka again. It's down the street on the left of The Casino, by the harbour. Great rabas.