I agree/disagree (re middle voice)

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:04 am

"There is such as thing as "the middle voice" in English."

Who here agrees with that?

JuanTwoThree · Post by **JuanTwoThree** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:45 am

"Treated wood paints better"

"This bread doesn't toast"

Is that what middle is? Because if so, it definitely exists.

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:09 am

JuanTwoThree wrote:"Treated wood paints better"

"This bread doesn't toast"

Is that what middle is? Because if so, it definitely exists.

Yes, that's what I would call middle voice.

JuanTwoThree · Post by **JuanTwoThree** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:02 pm

(Just back from Bakio, round the corner from Bermeo and Mundaka)

So these cannot be easily described as Active or Passive? It's a third voice?

The last outing we gave this baby was

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/teacher/v ... php?t=4769

It'd be interesting to hear from a few more posters this time.

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:22 am

(Just back from Bakio, round the corner from Bermeo and Mundaka)

I got married in Bakio. San Pelayo "church".

So these cannot be easily described as Active or Passive? It's a third voice?

I guess so. What some have named "notional passives".

It'd be interesting to hear from a few more posters this time.

Yes, it would. Shall we step back for a few days and see who joins in?

Stephen Jones · Post by **Stephen Jones** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:27 pm

I don't think the previous post ages well.

metal56 · Post by **metal56** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:55 pm

Stephen Jones wrote:I don't think the previous post ages well.

Where are you taking us, Stevie?