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I agree/disagree (re middle voice)
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:04 am
by metal56
"There is such as thing as "the middle voice" in English."
Who here agrees with that?
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:45 am
by JuanTwoThree
"Treated wood paints better"
"This bread doesn't toast"
Is that what middle is? Because if so, it definitely exists.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:09 am
by metal56
JuanTwoThree wrote:"Treated wood paints better"
"This bread doesn't toast"
Is that what middle is? Because if so, it definitely exists.
Yes, that's what I would call middle voice.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:02 pm
by JuanTwoThree
(Just back from Bakio, round the corner from Bermeo and Mundaka)
So these cannot be easily described as Active or Passive? It's a third voice?
The last outing we gave this baby was
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/teacher/v ... php?t=4769
It'd be interesting to hear from a few more posters this time.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:22 am
by metal56
(Just back from Bakio, round the corner from Bermeo and Mundaka)
I got married in Bakio. San Pelayo "church".
So these cannot be easily described as Active or Passive? It's a third voice?
I guess so. What some have named "notional passives".
It'd be interesting to hear from a few more posters this time.
Yes, it would. Shall we step back for a few days and see who joins in?
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:27 pm
by Stephen Jones
I don't think the previous post ages well.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:55 pm
by metal56
Stephen Jones wrote:I don't think the previous post ages well.
Where are you taking us, Stevie?