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grammar out of lexis
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:52 am
by metal56
Do you agree with this?
"lexis is complexly and systematically structured and (...) grammar is an outcome of this lexical structure" (Hoey 2005)
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:58 am
by metal56
And do you agree with this?
“When a word is polysemous, the collocations, semantic associations and colligations of one sense of the word differ from those of its other senses” (Hoey 2005)
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:35 pm
by fluffyhamster
That seems to be the standard line now from corpus linguists, doesn't it. Assuming they are right (and there seems little reason to expect they are drastically wrong), I'd say that I agree.
Is Hoey a better read than Sinclair ever was, metal? I should take a closer look at his
Lexical Priming. I recall seeing the examples from the following paper in said book when I last had a quick browse through it.
http://www.monabaker.com/tsresources/Le ... ofText.htm
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:47 pm
by metal56
I should take a closer look at his Lexical Priming.
Haven't you read it?
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:01 pm
by fluffyhamster
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:05 pm
by metal56
You might, but it may not stop you saying things such as "it's not much of a topic". That just seems to be something which is a primed part of
Fluffspeak.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:17 pm
by fluffyhamster
My prime response to that is more 'Shut that door!'. That, or a headbutt.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:22 pm
by metal56
fluffyhamster wrote:My prime response to that is more 'Shut that door!'. That, or a headbutt.
Let it out - if you have to.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:28 pm
by Anuradha Chepur
I agree with the OP. But Hoey is not the first one to say so.
Jackendoff (Foundations of Language, 2002), and other of his
earlier works focus on the position and role of semantics in grammars.
A lot of grammar is certainly pre-determined by semantics.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:23 pm
by metal56
But Hoey is not the first one to say so.
Indeed not.
