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dodo7
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english grammar

Post by dodo7 » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:48 pm

Hi there

Can you just check if I've understood these?

If I say
1. This is the level of blameworthiness that is appropriate for a crime. ''that is...crime'' relates to ''level''.

2. He is the kind of player that we want to bring to the club. ''that we...club.'' relates to ''kind''.

3. He is the sort of worker that will persevere.''that will persevere'' relates to ''sort''.

Would it be the same if I replace ''that'' by ''who'' in (3) and by ''which'' in (2)?

But for this one:

The number of people who died in the accident has increased. I think ''who died in the accident'' relates to ''people''.

Now:

In ''degree of force used.'' ''used'' is for ''force'' or ''degree''. ''amount of money given.'' ''given'' describes to what? Same question for ''owed'' in ''duty of care owed''

Please help with these.

My kind regards

Dodo

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Post by Lorikeet » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:18 pm

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Re: english grammar

Post by jotham » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:28 am

dodo7 wrote:Hi there

Can you just check if I've understood these?

If I say
1. This is the level of blameworthiness that is appropriate for a crime. ''that is...crime'' relates to ''level''.

2. He is the kind of player that we want to bring to the club. ''that we...club.'' relates to ''kind''.

3. He is the sort of worker that will persevere.''that will persevere'' relates to ''sort''.

Would it be the same if I replace ''that'' by ''who'' in (3) and by ''which'' in (2)?

Dodo
Number two can only be that (and not which) by most American editors and publications. From what I know, British authorities accept either that or which.

Though number one can only be that by American standards, one (or a few?) publications will allow for which when the antecedent is distant. I'm not really clear on this rule though.

Number three is okay either way either ocean.

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