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autumnangel
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Conversational Skills

Post by autumnangel » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:37 pm

Hello Everyone,

I have four parameters- 1 poor, 2- needs improvement, 3- average and 4 - good.

Now I need to Evaluate trainees with regards to their conversational skills and measure it against the above-mentioned paramets.

Could someone please guide me as to how I can do this successfully? :?:

Luis Alducin Romero
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Re: Conversational Skills

Post by Luis Alducin Romero » Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:25 am

Hi, well let me tell you somthing about that:
You can work with them doing a job interview, about their interests, etc but always according the level where they are in
And you can measure:
* Grammar=5 points
*Fluency=5
*Vocabulary=5
* Listening=5
*Pronunciation=5
Total 25 points
From 25 to 23 excellent
From 22 to 20 Very good
From 19 to 17 Good
From 16 or less needs help.
This is going to help you a lot. Good luck! :D

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Post by harmony » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:34 pm

What seems to be missing is some sort of objectification of what each of your parameters means in terms of performance. What are the things that a "poor" learner or a "good" learner does? At the IEP where I am now working, for instance, we have a range from 0-5 that measures speaking ability in a low level class with zero at the bottom end and 5 at the top. Each number, however, is given a description. 1, for example, is described as "constant searching for words and verb tenses, incomplete utterances, responses one or two words in length, most structures incoherent, may have severe pronunciation problems that impede communication". Having such decription is especially important if other teachers are involved as what is "good" for one person may be "poor" for another. It also helps the students to get an idea of where they are going, what they are shooting for, and what each score means. It is probably a good idea for you to get a grip on where your students are and the range of their existing abilities and where it is you intend for them to get to and come up with descriptive criteria that are suitable to your circumstances. 8)

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Post by Heads Up English » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:39 am

I agree with Luis in that you need to focus on certain skills in order to correctly assess a student's level. For example, someone might have fantastic grammar and vocabulary when it comes to reading, but can't put a sentence together in a conversation; or maybe a student dominates the conversation, always butting in, because his listening is quite poor. There are an infinite number of reasons to which you need to give at least some attention.

Luis's breakdown of the skills is good, too. I will add, though, that you can either tally the points at the end, as he has done, or you can break the numbering into levels. Scores of ones and twos would indicate a beginning level student; twos, threes, and fours an intermediate student, and fours and fives an advanced student. Even better, if you are working at a school with a level system in place, assign the scores to match the levels. Thus, a score of ones for grammar, listening, etc. would indicate a level one student, and a score of threes would indicate a level three student. For me, this always works best, as it is easiest to remember.

One point that no one has mentioned deals with the type of questions to ask. If you ask questions around familiar topics such as family, work, or hobbies, a student will score higher. He has talked about these topics in past textbooks, lessons, or even chatting with a native speaker, and so has produced this type of language again and again. Naturally, his fluency will be affected, as may his grammar and vocabulary.

When assessing a student's level, always begin with some of these questions to put him at ease, but then move towards less familiar topics. Ask questions that become increasingly more difficult, testing for different grammar points and vocabulary. If the student begins to struggle or becomes flustered, ask a few easier questions once more, then again slowly increase the difficulty. This should give you a pretty accurate idea of where to place him.

Chris Cotter
www.headsupenglish.com

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