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Just a code

Post by metal56 » Sun May 27, 2007 7:59 am

Standard English is not a language at all but merely a much simpler communication object, i.e. a code.

Do you agree?

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Post by lolwhites » Sun May 27, 2007 9:28 am

I was taught in my Linguistics class that language is a code.

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Post by metal56 » Sun May 27, 2007 1:19 pm

lolwhites wrote:I was taught in my Linguistics class that language is a code.
Is it?

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Post by lolwhites » Sun May 27, 2007 1:57 pm

Sure. It's a collection of sounds/symbols that represent information, right? And you have to know the system to get at the information. Sounds like a code to me, just not a secret one. My lecturers always used the term "code" in their definitions of language.

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Post by Stephen Jones » Sun May 27, 2007 2:38 pm

Standard English is not a language at all but merely a much simpler communication object, i.e. a code.

Do you agree?
Standard English is a dialect. Where do you get these ridiculous quotes from.

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Post by metal56 » Sun May 27, 2007 4:55 pm

Stephen Jones wrote:
Standard English is not a language at all but merely a much simpler communication object, i.e. a code.

Do you agree?
Standard English is a dialect. Where do you get these ridiculous quotes from.
They's everywhere.

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Post by metal56 » Sun May 27, 2007 4:57 pm

lolwhites wrote:Sure. It's a collection of sounds/symbols that represent information, right? And you have to know the system to get at the information. Sounds like a code to me, just not a secret one. My lecturers always used the term "code" in their definitions of language.
So, is Morse Code a code of a code?

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Re: Just a code

Post by Miss Elenious » Sun May 27, 2007 5:26 pm

metal56 wrote:Standard English is not a language at all but merely a much simpler communication object, i.e. a code.

Do you mean that Standard English does not exist? Oh my God!

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Post by lolwhites » Sun May 27, 2007 6:26 pm

So, is Morse Code a code of a code?
I suppose you could put it like that, though it would probably be more accurately be described as a cipher since the dots and dashes substitute individual letters.

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Re: Just a code

Post by metal56 » Sun May 27, 2007 10:50 pm

Miss Elenious wrote:
metal56 wrote:Standard English is not a language at all but merely a much simpler communication object, i.e. a code.

Do you mean that Standard English does not exist? Oh my God!
Why would it mean that?

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Re: Just a code

Post by Miss Elenious » Mon May 28, 2007 6:46 am

Do you mean that Standard English does not exist? Oh my God!
Why would it mean that?[/quote]

Is there only a[/i] Standard English or maybe we should speak of several Standard Englishes? Does Standard English cover all native speakers, educated or not?

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Re: Just a code

Post by metal56 » Mon May 28, 2007 7:42 am

Miss Elenious wrote:
Is there only a[/i] Standard English or maybe we should speak of several Standard Englishes? Does Standard English cover all native speakers, educated or not?

There are quite a few Standard Englishes, yes. Standard English/es is/are known, though not used, by the majority of native English speakers.

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