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Australian headed to SF Bay Area
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peripatetic_soul



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:33 pm    Post subject: Australian headed to SF Bay Area Reply with quote

Dear Cloudpleaser,

As Spiral and NS have stated, there are fewer opportunities than ever in ESL at the tertiary level due to the precipitous decline in international students. As a result, some TEFLERS are changing careers. AS NS also commented, even teaching ESL full-time may not yield a salary that will enable one to live comfortably in the most expensive states of NY, NJ, and California. You can read more about the precarious nature of ESL at the college/university level on other threads here (e.g., Student Slump, Plight of ESL Adjuncts).

I too have never heard of anyone from other Anglophone countries (non-US citizens) teaching ESL in the US. I know of one ESL high school teacher originally from Poland and besides Polish, is fluent in English, Spanish, German and Russian, but is an American citizen with state licensure.

Sorry the forecast for the TESL univ. job market here is not more optimistic but it seems many other countries are facing a similar trend.

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peripatetic_soul:

I think your response was meant for Oztobeyond; cloud_pleaser has since moved on to China.

I'd add that language schools are dealing with reduced enrollments as well, which would be Oztobeyond's target teaching situation given her qualifications.
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rtm



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Australian headed to SF Bay Area Reply with quote

peripatetic_soul wrote:
I too have never heard of anyone from other Anglophone countries (non-US citizens) teaching ESL in the US.

I know a couple Canadians, a German, an Italian, and a few Chinese who work full-time in IEPs in US universities. So, it is possible, if one has the necessary qualifications and experience (which neither the OP nor Oztobeyond seems to have). With just a CELTA, it would be tough to find something.
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Oztobeyond



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugger, never mind. I'll just see how things pan out. Who knows, I might get lucky, and I've got 1 year up my sleeve to work things out.

P.S. nomad soul, I'm a 'he' Wink
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oztobeyond wrote:
Bugger, never mind. I'll just see how things pan out. Who knows, I might get lucky, and I've got 1 year up my sleeve to work things out.

P.S. nomad soul, I'm a 'he' Wink

Oops! I forgot to check under the hood! Shocked Hee hee!

If you're interested in bumping up your qualifications, maybe you could head to the US as an international student. Otherwise, join the many other umpteen tourists.
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madhatter109



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otzo- like others said, it's a tight job situation now, and we are all feeling the stretch of the job market. I can't find any full time higher Ed ESL jobs to even apply for. It's a sea of part time work with extremely low pay. If you somehow got a visa, teaching public school is you best bet of earning a living wage over here. Think of this as a perfect time to meet and fall in love with an American citizen... All jokes aside, it does happen. Just curious - any thoughts about going back to Australia to teach? What's the market like down under? Best of luck to you in your search, we are all rooting for you.
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twowheel



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madhatter109 wrote:
Best of luck to you in your search, we are all rooting for you.


Oh, oh, oh! Be careful how you use the word "root" when speaking with an Australian!

Shocked Embarassed Razz Laughing Cool

Oztobeyond, good luck with everything. I concur with the above, public school teaching is the way to go in the U.S. in regards to better salaries and benefits and job stability (mostly).

twowheel
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. I am certified in Washington.
If anyone knows the Seattle area, please post.
I want to be in Tacoma by late March for the job fair.
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twowheel



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
I want to be in Tacoma by late March for the job fair.


2017 TESOL International Conference?

twowheel
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, just one for jobs in Washington (K-12 mostly).
With no experience at an IEP, I don't think I could get a university job.
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twowheel



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with it all Mitsui!

twowheel
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I hope my wife can find work there as well.
Something related to Japanese.
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Noelle



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.

Just saw this and wanted to revive it. Any other Australians out there still thinking of trying to come to the U.S. to teach in the ESOL field?

It's not a sustainable job/plan:( Students who would apply to study in language programs here are now flocking to Australia and Canada.
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