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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Sasha,
Great site - I especially liked this piece:
"The basic principle is Games, Games and more Games. Of course, you do not call them games. They are communicative activities.
Beware of books with titles like Fun With Grammar. You might as well call a book Fun With Cancer. These games are usually designed to practise a structure like the present perfect. As practice they may be passable, but as games per se they are usually crap. Often you have to cut up hundreds of tiny pieces of paper first. Students then mill around the class, wondering what the point is, showing each other what is written on their bit of paper, avoiding the target structure and speaking in their native language.
No, the trick is to find a time-proven game that works, then devise a plausible ELTish reason for using it.
An example is Monopoly. Guaranteed to keep them amused for an hour, but what do you tell the DOS when he sticks his interfering head round the door?
The best bet is to adapt the game in some way. So if you are doing the present perfect, every time a student lands on a square they have to say, �I have landed on The Angel, Islington.� Another student can then say, �I have already built a hotel there, so you must pay me �50.� You can probably think of something more creative, but that is the general idea. The students will find it mildly irritating, but it will not spoil the game.
Besides games, role plays and tasks keep the students entertained and your DOS happy�and do not involve too much work for the teacher.
Dream up a task like a class newspaper or a website and you can keep the students busy for weeks."
I teach the highest level of ESL at the local community college. Students who have gone through the lower levels before coming to my class often give me a blank stare when I mention Present Simple, Parts of Speech. Punctuation, etc. Curious, I've asked them just what they were taught at the lower levels. Generally, the reply has been a variation of this: "We play lots of games."
Alas, a good number of my fellow teachers aren't even ESL trained; they're "semi-retired" elementary school teachers. It shows.
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John |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Johnslat
Yes, a great, great site. Sadly, it is more truthful than I feel comfortable with.
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Tudor
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 339
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed, it's very funny although I know a couple of individuals who would huff 'n' puff pretty loudly if they clapped eyes on it! |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:29 am Post subject: |
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This website has been around for some years now. I had forgotten about it since someone linked me to the Satanic Units. I did love the iElts page and like all of this site... often unnervingly close to reality.
And a reminder that we have some creative, truly funny, people in our field.
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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It is indeed an old website, but one that disappeared for quite a long spell. Has undergone some changes, but I am happy to see it back in any form. |
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spanglish
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 742 Location: working on that
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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It's a fair bit 'harder' but I prefer the stuff from 'teacher x.' |
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NWBen
Joined: 15 Nov 2009 Posts: 13 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:35 am Post subject: I liked... and recognized myself in it... the piece on games |
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Besides games, role plays and tasks keep the students entertained and your DOS happy�and do not involve too much work for the teacher. |
When I was in Germany, I used a UK book that was probably published in the 1980s that had 15 or 20 humorous skits in it. Really funny -- even to adults and native speakers. Maybe even Monty-Pythonesque-funny.
Each skit had vocab and a particular grammar point (usually a verb tense) described in the beginning and then used throughout the piece and were designated as appropriate for beginners or intermediates, etc... One skit may have been in a train compartment.
I think it might have been a series aired on the BBC at some point, but I'm not sure. I'd love to figure out the title. I've googled as many details as I can remember... without luck.
Anybody recognize it from my lame description?  |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Denim-Maniac
Joined: 31 Jan 2012 Posts: 1238
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:41 am Post subject: |
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I like that site....so thanks for posting the link. I have wasted an hour or two already chuckling to myself at some of the postings. |
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LongShiKong
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 1082 Location: China
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: Re: I liked... and recognized myself in it... the piece on g |
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... a UK book that was probably published in the 1980s that had 15 or 20 humorous skits in it. Really funny -- even to adults and native speakers. Maybe even Monty-Pythonesque-funny.
Anybody recognize it from my lame description?  |
Yes, English Sketches - Books 1 and 2. I've got both as a single PDF. I originally downloaded some of them from Macmillan's OneStopEnglish.com. I'm not sure if they're still available on that site. PM me with your email address and I'll send it to you. Here's a snippet of one:
The Doctor
The doctor is sitting at his desk. The telephone rings: the student-doctor is calling.
Doctor: Hello?
Student: Doctor Watson?
Doctor: Yes?
Student: My name's Smith.
Doctor: What's the matter with you?
Student: Nothing, doctor. I'm fine.
Doctor: Really? In that case, why are you calling?
Student: Well, I'm a doctor.
Doctor: You're a doctor?
Student: Actually, I'm a student-doctor.
Doctor: You're a student?
Student: -doctor.
Doctor: Yes?
Student: Er ... I'm a student-doctor. |
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