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Ludwig



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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be hard to argue with Roger on that particular point (although I would ask what Chinese cities are not like that). I should say that I have indeed worked in Shenzhen many years ago; just not with the firm I referred to. But, if money is the only thing you are after in China than I would have to say go to 'Samzan'!
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Ludwig



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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
I've got a friend who will be doing that and will be making them [sic] same amount of money he made in Taiwan.


No, you "have a friend" who has been TOLD he will be making the "same amount he made in Taiwan". (Even if it pans out as is claimed it will, they most likely mean 'by, or relative to, local standards'.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
I don't understand this "Your job is being outsourced to the Filipinos, and other developing countries who speak English." SOme one please explain it to me.


I will.

Many English language posts on the mainland that previously were filled exclusively by the prototypical Westerner are now, as a result of many different factors (read, 'cost' and 'availability'), are now starting, slowly but surely, to advertise for - and ultimately employ - native speakers of English (or, a variety thereof) from less developed states (invariably states in which English is commonly employed as a lingua franca).

This can be confirmed merely by taking a cursory glance at the germane press in certain countries. I have seen advertisements for TEFL posts in the press of many African states, for example, and also in and around SE Asia.

I suppose the problem for many employers (from their point of view) is the forthcoming new regulations on who and who can not be employed as a teacher (no longer a 'foreign expert') in public schools. It is, after all, not that simple a task to get that many (and make no mistake about it, many are needed) qualified teachers (remember, the new regulations make it clear that all teachers must have (a minimum of) a BA, a PGCE, and a TEFL certificate of sorts!) for the proposed maximum of (around) 3,000 RMB (at least in Beijing, though it is planned for this new policy to be spread throughout the entire mainland).

For those from India, Nigeria, and certain islands around South East Asia, however, that is a well-paid post and, as evinced by even certain US firms using Indians as call centre staff, their language skills are trusted in the international field.
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