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eslteach
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 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject: Some Thai University Work Questions |
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I have been working at a university in china for two years, and its time to move on. I want to work at a university in Thailand but I have some questions.
Chinese unis usually require 16 teaching hours per week, with little or no office hours. How many total working hours are usually seen in Thailand?
When is the peak hiring time?
Is housing usually provided?
What is a normal salary for someone with a Masters Degree?
Is a teaching cerficate absolutely required? Is there any way around getting one and still finding a job? |
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tttompatz
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Some Thai University Work Questions |
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| eslteach wrote: |
I have been working at a university in china for two years, and its time to move on. I want to work at a university in Thailand but I have some questions.
1) Chinese unis usually require 16 teaching hours per week, with little or no office hours. How many total working hours are usually seen in Thailand?
2) When is the peak hiring time?
3) Is housing usually provided?
4) What is a normal salary for someone with a Masters Degree?
5) Is a teaching certificate absolutely required? Is there any way around getting one and still finding a job? |
Numbers added for clarity.
1) 9-20 depending on what you teach and where you teach.
2) NOW. Almost over for the better uni positions. Lots of EFL jobs coming up in the next couple of months though.
3) Not usually.
4) 30k THB (you make better money in a private school or language academy than you get for a salary at most universities. There are lots of options (after you figure out the lay of the land) to supplement that income.
5) No. Yes, just get a job.
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MaiPenRai
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What's your Masters degree? If its something other than EFL, you have a better shot at getting into something degree relevant at a private Uni.
You could even aim at getting into the International Programs at the bigger universities where you could make a higher salary and teach International students (mostly from other S.E. Asian, African and Asian countries). They would most likely be much more motivated than the majority of Thai students. |
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eslteach
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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My Masters degree is in business and I have two years experience in chinese universities.
I am trying to keep working hours to a minimum (hopefully not over 15 workings hours per week) Is this possible?
Also, I am really not sure where to look for jobs. I have not seen many ads online and I did send emails directly to some schools but I am not sure if those were even getting to many people. I only got one response and they said I was applying too early. |
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eslteach
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| also, i did talk to wall street institute (even though I would much rather be at a uni) and they told me that I would not be able to get a work visa without a TEFL certificate. |
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| eslteach wrote: |
| also, i did talk to wall street institute (even though I would much rather be at a uni) and they told me that I would not be able to get a work visa without a TEFL certificate. |
They lied.
A TEFL cert is NOT a requirement for a work permit nor is it a requirement for a non-B visa.
It may very well be a requirement for an employer however.
AS to teaching in a uni, if you have a legitimate MBA or comparable degree then there are BUSINESS programs that are taught in English. You might want to look to some of those rather than trying to teach EFL.
Chula, St. Johns, etc.
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PattyFlipper
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| eslteach wrote: |
I am trying to keep working hours to a minimum (hopefully not over 15 workings hours per week) Is this possible? |
If you are seeking a fairly easy schedule and relaxed working environment, similar to your situation in China, Thai universities are probably not the place to look. I think it highly unlikely that you will find a position where your contact load is as low as 15 hours, whatever they may say at interview or write in their almost worthless contract.
They will likely try to load you up with compulsory overtime, often at unsociable hours (including weekends) and derisory hourly rates. This will probably be in addition to 'assisting' the Thai ajarns with their own work - editing (i.e. rewriting, and I need it this afternoon please!) their theses and research papers. You will almost certainly be required to remain on campus from around 8.00am to 4.00pm and sign-in or even clock-in (fingerprint scanners are by no means unknown) every day like some blue-collar factory worker. At least one private institution demands that faculty obtain written permission to leave campus during working hours - even for lunch.
There may be the odd exception to the above, but they are relatively few and far between. Good luck in finding one. Thai universities have a very high turnover of non-Thai staff for some very cogent reasons. The pathetic salaries, which incidentally have not increased in over 20 years and are unlikely to do so this side of Armageddon, are merely the tip of the iceberg. |
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kidefl
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Rajabhat has a normal load of about 15. My first year there was 11.
MA IMPE means nothing. I worked with a lot of teachers with MAs and even PhDs. We always earned the same. First rule to living and teaching in Thailand is to leave your Western logic in a security locker at the airport. They seem not to care where you went to school or what you studied. Being good looking and well dressed has precedent over all that. |
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