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sainthood · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:45 am Post subject:

What's a 'fair' wage?? Depends - what are your qualifications and experience? That's what seems to be missing from this discussion. At my last job, a fresh face out of college would be on almost the same pay as me with additional qualifications and experience... is that fair? I'd say no (said so with my feet Smile

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As to what GWOW was saying, there is some truth that we are getting exploited. How much does the boss make? How much does the boss give us? Particularly in those IELTS preparation schools... they get 300+ per student per hour (how many students?? 20? 30??) And they offer the teacher only... 150/hour??? That boss is making thousands per hour, and giving us crap! I'd call that 'exploiting', especially since the boss isn't going to get that sort of money without us.

The simple answer... start your own school (or, at the very least, just do a small group of privates, instead of 1 at a time).

gtd · Joined: 26 Oct 2011 Posts: 30

Maybe this is a good example to the original posters question....I currently am in discussion with a company in China and their offer is as follows: 7000-9000RMB a month, free living accomadations, and 6000RMB airfare allowance.
I have no experience and this is my first job offer. How does this compare for the going rate these days?

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Hours?
It's good for a uni 20 hrs job but not so for a mill.
Think 'package' people!

Denim-Maniac · Joined: 31 Jan 2012 Posts: 1238

And also think location. That package would probably be classed as too low for Shanghai, but amazing for Kunming. (probably the two greatest extremes, but the idea is sound)

Package + location give a basis to make a good comparison. Kinda the same as it would be back at home really.

gtd · Joined: 26 Oct 2011 Posts: 30

According to them, I would end up in one of the following cities: Guangzhou, Nanjing, Jinan, Chongqing, Taiyuan, Jinan. and Hefei. I am awaiting on the firm details.

I'm not in it for the money. Its my first year so I'd like to be able to get by and maybe put a little aside. I 'm going in debt-free and hoping to network and find better paying jobs down the road.

coco1979 · Joined: 07 Feb 2012 Posts: 29

rogerwilco · Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 1549

sainthood · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:36 am Post subject:

[quote=RogerWilco]"Sounds like a company that I used to work for that placed me in a high school in Hefei.
Never had any salary problems with the company, but I was not happy with their claim of being associated with an Australian university that I later learned to be false.[/quote]

High School...with an Aussie uni??? That just doesn't sound right at all!!!

[quote=GTD] "According to them, I would end up in one of the following cities: Guangzhou, Nanjing, Jinan, Chongqing, Taiyuan, Jinan. and Hefei. I am awaiting on the firm details. [/quote]

Big difference between them all!!! Guangzhou and Nanjing aint' too cheap to live in, but a couple of those others it could be ok pay... 9again, depending on which bit of the city. Steer clear of Taiyuan - seriously polluted (Chongqing isn't great either, in the city area, but nicer out of it). Guangzhou is the Shanghai of the south....

rogerwilco · Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 1549

sainthood · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject:

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

My picking is that this 'offer/interest' is from a recruiter who is now hawking you around as many contacts as he can.
Do yourself a favour and keep applying to others including direct applications to actual schools and colleges.
For your first gig set your sights conservatively. After a year you can go after a bit more money/responsibility.

spicykimchi · Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 50

So I was having a conversation with a foreigner at immigration last week. The guy asked me how much I make, and I told him 10,500 + 4,000 housing allowance. A nearby foreigner (maybe he was from Sweden or something), said, "10,500? That's crap. My friend just opened up a school, and he's starting his teachers out at 28,000 a month!" I laughed, and said that if wages were that high, I would have moved to China a long time ago. He then proceeded to tell me that you can find some schools that pay 60,000 RMB a month.

I guarantee if you find any school that pays that much, you'll probably have to wear a short skirt, pour drinks, and sit on the laps of the male workers during office hours.

Brian Hugh · Joined: 07 Jan 2012 Posts: 140 Location: China

So many new things happening here. Now there are probation periods. What if they decide you are not up to par. You go home on your dime? I am also seeing no degree required. Actually I see nothing wrong with this. Employers should have the right to hire anyone. It just goes against the whole purpose of educational accredidation.

shadowrider · Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Posts: 208