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ottawau



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:15 am    Post subject: Visa info Reply with quote

Hey,

So I'm currently in a B'ed program in Ontario. Got an offer at an international school in China. I was under the impression that I wouldn't be eligible for a work visa until I was two years out of school is this the case? When I asked the school about it they told me not to worry about the Visa stuff they had it under control...

Thanks
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therock



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What will you be teaching? Where is the school located?

Normally International schools require experience as do the government for issuing work permits. Qualified English teachers are a dime a dozen, so if this is the subject you will be teaching, the school is more likely a wannabe International school.

The two year rule is interpreted differently from city to city, in other words if the school says that getting the work permit is no problem and send you the documents needed to apply in your home country, then you have nothing to worry about.
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ottawau



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The school is in Shunyi (Beijing Suburb), it is a Bilingual School that markets itself as teaching the California state standards as well as the Chinese curriculum.

The offer was for Grade 1

side note: is an offer of 17'000rmb before tax appropriate for that part of China? (housing included)
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PathToChina



Joined: 04 Feb 2012
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Location: California U.S.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:58 am    Post subject: Be Careful Reply with quote

ottawau wrote:
The school is in Shunyi (Beijing Suburb), it is a Bilingual School that markets itself as teaching the California state standards as well as the Chinese curriculum.

The offer was for Grade 1

side note: is an offer of 17'000rmb before tax appropriate for that part of China? (housing included)


I have been teaching here in China for the past 4 years. I would definitely be careful with this one. Most 'International' Training Schools here in China promise something or will say anything to get you there. Then, once you're there, you are pretty much stuck. They know this....

17,000RMB is good for the month, but they will take 'taxes', 40+ hour work weeks plus probably make you pay for accommodation or what not.

Do be careful about it.
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ottawau



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

any advice on how to best be careful or research?

Accommodation is written into the contract as provided. I was sent a pay scale that listed my after tax salary as 14'955rmb.
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Opiate



Joined: 10 Aug 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ottawau wrote:
any advice on how to best be careful or research?

Accommodation is written into the contract as provided. I was sent a pay scale that listed my after tax salary as 14'955rmb.


Unless there is reliable information on the web (lol?) it can be difficult to research some schools. Try speaking to current and former teachers. Be sure to actually *speak* to them and not only exchange emails. Some schools have been known to use CT's or other staff to impersonate a happy happy teacher who so loves the city and school and Chinese culture!!!

This may be off topic but I am curious as to how many hours are expected from you for 15k.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some schools have been known to use CT's or other staff to impersonate a happy happy teacher who so loves the city and school and Chinese culture!!!


Yeah, but you can usually spot them immediately. Chinglish.
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Opiate



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
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Some schools have been known to use CT's or other staff to impersonate a happy happy teacher who so loves the city and school and Chinese culture!!!


Yeah, but you can usually spot them immediately. Chinglish.


Usually. I agree. Not all use Chinglish, some readers may attribute an odd phrase or slightly unusual writing to other factors. Was just trying to give the OP a heads up.
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ottawau



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info all it is much appreciated.

If anyone else has anything to add please do.

I spent a couple years living in Seoul could I equate cost of living (accommodation aside) as being pretty similar between the two cities?
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ecubyrd94



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if that is for ESL teaching, it is a much better deal than the usual language mill. I only assume that it is a lower tier international school (based on pay). Will you get full paid vacation and for how long? If you do and it is for the long breaks that fall during winter and summer, then even the better. So what if you have to work a 40 work week; don't understand why people make such a big deal of that. I'll take a 190 day calendar school year teaching twenty 40 minute classes per week making over 20k rmb (housing allowance factored) any day over many of the alternatives offered here. Good luck in your decision, OP.

I've no idea about the city that school offer is in, but I lived/taught 5 years in Seoul and I find Shanghai (where I am now) cheaper on the whole.
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