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[Guerciotti]

[choudoufu]

[therock]

If any blacklist exists, I still reckon it's provincial. All this mess probably started by the Hubei PSB contracting the Henan PSB.

Call me cynical as well, but the part about doing your duty well and then they will apply to have your blacklist status removed sounds like crap and just a way for them to keep you on their leash. If you were on some sort of blacklist then getting a new residence permit means you are off the list.

[johntpartee]

I'm going by what I've witnessed since I arrived here. From the first day I got here everything has been done in a timely and satisfactory manner. If everyone will look back at the "Blacklist!!!" topic, I mentioned that I intended to put a good review of this school on Dave's when all was said and done no matter what happened. This doesn't apply just to my situation, but to all of the foreign teachers here. They've all told me how the administration takes care of business. I have been paid on time, everything I've needed has been provided, etc. I have never been nor will I ever be on anybody's "leash". I never regretted what I did in Henan; it's good to know that I can still work in China, but everything that the FAO said in her letter works both ways. If they hold up their end of the contract, I will hold up mine.

[vikeologist]

Johnpartee - Great news. Of course, like everybody else, all I can do is try to interpret the situation and go by what you've said, but it wounds as though you and your new employer are establishing an adult relationship based on communication

Everybody knows there's reasons why things go pear-shaped sometimes, but I hope things work out well for you from now on. It sounds like they will.

[Non Sequitur]

Be interested to learn johntpartee what part of your conditions or package could be used to possibly 'punish' you at end of contact?
Airfare reimbursement/allowance?
End of engagement bonus?
Travel money?
I'm pretty neutral about the posts pro and con you being gullible, but the above may be worth thinking about and protecting yourself if you can.

[johntpartee]

Anything's possible, I suppose, but I'm not losing any sleep over it. There are scheduled to be three bonuses and a partial airfare reimbursement before the end of the current contract, so I'll find out pretty quickly. I don't really believe they're out to exact any revenge, but you never know.

[Non Sequitur]

Be interested to see how it pans out for you john.
Keep us uptodate.
Best
NS

[johntpartee]

Thank you. I shall.

[RiverMystic]

Great people, the Romans. See "Life of Brian".

Can't believe anyone would work for a mob openly state "we promise not to hang you if you are a good n.....r." imagine this in a contract in any developed country! Do as we say and you live! Only Someone with no Human self respect would buy this"deal".

[shadowrider]

[johntpartee]

[roadwalker]

I think you have the proper attitude, johntpartee. If the school you are now at wanted to save a few hundred or thousand RMB by screwing you out of them, they don't need a soft warning in an email to do it. If it was all an elaborate ruse to get some of your money, they risk getting bad publicity and they know it. All of business is based on a degree of trust. That isn't a new concept in China, or anywhere in the world. We ALL risk getting taken advantage of by our employers just as they ALL risk losing us teachers to a midnight run. Most don't because, unlike your earlier employer, they value good work relationships or because they are afraid of negative consequences, or both. Glad it worked out.

[johntpartee]

Thank you, roadwalker; however, your reference to

[Moonshadow_51]

John, I don't think any of us can vouch whether there really is a black list, but it seems that a negative release statement from a former employer can hurt a teacher.

I lived in China for many years and understand from your original post that they want you to be aware that they have discovered something about you that caused them concern, but that they are happy with you so far, and hope that you continue to do well.

A few years ago, one of my former colleagues discovered that she was "blacklisted" (still unsure of the term to use) because of something her former spouse had done. She knew nothing about it until she applied for a job in another country and a potential employer brought it to her attention.

It got cleared up, but the public embarrassment still lingers online. Frankly, if it were me, I'd delete this thread, altogether. But I'm not, so wish you well