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TEFL in a Recession? More newbie questions!

 
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Skipp



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: TEFL in a Recession? More newbie questions! Reply with quote

Hey hey... I'm considering teaching English abroad next year or the year after, but I'm currently in a secure job and am a bit hesitant about jumping too soon. That said, I've wanted to teach English for years and always wanted to travel!

A bit about me...

- I'm a white, 28 year old British woman. I'm in relatively good shape and I speak clearly.
- I've been told many times that I'm good with adults and children, but I have no formal experience with kids.
- I work for the civil service (if that looks good) and have a degree from a London university.
- I'm not afraid to slum it or work hard... I'd mostly like to teach English, so I can pick up a language, learn new cultures and live in different countries.
- I come across as very confident in dealing with people and love new challenges... I'm so bored with the 9-5, same stories, routines and need to step out of my comfort zone, but I'd also like to help people.

So my questions...

Honestly, how hard has this job sector been hit with the recession? Is it unrealistic for me to find a job easily?

I'm interested in Latin America and Buddhist countries... Where's good for a newbie?

How much cash should I expect to have saved up? I'm thinking of �4-6000 as a buffer... Is this enough?

I'd also consider Spain and Portugal... Is work with little experience realistic here, for an EU person?

I'm gay, but play it down... How much should I consider this when looking at teaching abroad?

P.S. South Korea and Japan don't really appeal though... Hrm, maybe that's closed minded. Heh.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Spain and Portugal, you would need a certification such as CELTA, simply because most teachers on this job market have one and anything less puts you at an automatic disadvantage.
The standard is 120 hours on site, including supervised teaching practice with actual students - online courses are considered generally substandard for this region. You might consider taking a course in the country where you decide to start - it's helpful in terms of making local contacts.

There is a Spain board below where you can find current info on the state of the job market - I think the general idea is that there is work in the bigger cities. Do keep in mind for Europe the summer holiday season - there's little going on July/August except for some summer schools and you can't really count on regular wages. Normal contract period is Sept/Oct to end June, in most cases, so you might want to time your job search accordingly.

One more note for the EU region: jobs aren't normally found from abroad. There are enough teachers around so that schools dont' need to take a chance on anyone sight unseen. Another reason taking a certification course in country is helpful - you're there on the ground for interviews.

As for sexual orientation, not usually a problem in this part of the world so far as I know, though there's always someone out there who might unreasonably take offence Shocked
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Skipp



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh cool... There are jobs in Spain!

Also, should I volunteer with kids to get experience? If anything, I'll at least learn a bit about how to work with them.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably best to read around a bit on the Spain forum, and then ask there regarding the kiddie issue. I think there is some work with kids in the country, but most newbies start out with more adults, so far as I know.

My expertise is in the European region, and I've friends and contacts who have worked long-term in Spain, but I do not know what percentage of the job market is with children - I think relatively little.

In the European region, much of the work (in some countries, the bulk of work) is with adult professionals in their offices.

Public (state) schools normally employ local teachers for English language. There is some work with kids in sub-state-school ages and after school-type programmes. However, if you're imagining teaching in a regular state-run school, in one location, regular business hours, think again Shocked Very Happy .

You might find that in Asia. Not likely in Europe.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: TEFL in a Recession? More newbie questions! Reply with quote

Skipp wrote:
Hey hey... I'm considering teaching English abroad next year or the year after, but I'm currently in a secure job and am a bit hesitant about jumping too soon. That said, I've wanted to teach English for years and always wanted to travel!

A bit about me...

- I'm a white, 28 year old British woman. I'm in relatively good shape and I speak clearly.
- I've been told many times that I'm good with adults and children, but I have no formal experience with kids.
- I work for the civil service (if that looks good) and have a degree from a London university.
- I'm not afraid to slum it or work hard... I'd mostly like to teach English, so I can pick up a language, learn new cultures and live in different countries.
- I come across as very confident in dealing with people and love new challenges... I'm so bored with the 9-5, same stories, routines and need to step out of my comfort zone, but I'd also like to help people.

So my questions...

Honestly, how hard has this job sector been hit with the recession? Is it unrealistic for me to find a job easily?

I'm interested in Latin America and Buddhist countries... Where's good for a newbie?

How much cash should I expect to have saved up? I'm thinking of �4-6000 as a buffer... Is this enough?

I'd also consider Spain and Portugal... Is work with little experience realistic here, for an EU person?

I'm gay, but play it down... How much should I consider this when looking at teaching abroad?

P.S. South Korea and Japan don't really appeal though... Hrm, maybe that's closed minded. Heh.


Look into foreign aid relief. Your civil service background might be of help and you will help people. It is NOT a 9-5 office gig and you will be on the frontlines, so to speak.

In TEFL you will need a CELTA and then find a job somewhere. It will be exciting for about 6 months or so, as everything will be new (country, culture, langauge, food, etc) and then you will wake up one day, realize that it isn't the Shangra-La you were looking for, and you are working not the dreadedM-F 9-5 but 6AM-7PM M-F and 6 hours on Saturday...
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:59 am    Post subject: Re: TEFL in a Recession? More newbie questions! Reply with quote

Skipp wrote:
P.S. South Korea and Japan don't really appeal though... Hrm, maybe that's closed minded.
Why neither of these countries? You qualify well enough for the JET Programme, not to mention conversation schools in Japan.

No reason to mention being gay. Can't imagine why anyone would when dealing with any job hunting process.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:28 am    Post subject: Re: TEFL in a Recession? More newbie questions! Reply with quote

Skipp wrote:
Hey hey... I'm considering teaching English abroad next year or the year after, but I'm currently in a secure job and am a bit hesitant about jumping too soon. That said, I've wanted to teach English for years and always wanted to travel!

A bit about me...

- I'm a white, 28 year old British woman. I'm in relatively good shape and I speak clearly.
- I've been told many times that I'm good with adults and children, but I have no formal experience with kids.
- I work for the civil service (if that looks good) and have a degree from a London university.
- I'm not afraid to slum it or work hard... I'd mostly like to teach English, so I can pick up a language, learn new cultures and live in different countries.
- I come across as very confident in dealing with people and love new challenges... I'm so bored with the 9-5, same stories, routines and need to step out of my comfort zone, but I'd also like to help people.

So my questions...

Honestly, how hard has this job sector been hit with the recession? Is it unrealistic for me to find a job easily?

I'm interested in Latin America and Buddhist countries... Where's good for a newbie?

How much cash should I expect to have saved up? I'm thinking of �4-6000 as a buffer... Is this enough?

I'd also consider Spain and Portugal... Is work with little experience realistic here, for an EU person?

I'm gay, but play it down... How much should I consider this when looking at teaching abroad?

P.S. South Korea and Japan don't really appeal though... Hrm, maybe that's closed minded. Heh.


1. There are always jobs available, for all levels of experience, but salaries in many countries have always been static, or decreasing, even before the recession! I think you could find a job fairly easily, but it would probably be in China, assuming you are dead set against Korea. By the way, I'd take living in Korea over China any day!

2. Not sure about LA, but Thailand might be an option. requirements will no doubt have changed since I was there, so you should check and see what they are.

3. Depends on where you're going. However, if you can afford to have �4-6k in your account when you travel, then all the better. It certainly won't do you any harm.

4. Experience often seems to be asked for in the EU, but I have seen jobs out there for newbies. Just look carefully and you may well get lucky.

5. Nothing wrong with being 'gay'. I'm a happy person too! May the Lord bless you! But seriously, teaching TEFL will, at times, show you just how bigoted, and hypocritical, this world is, when it comes to freedom of sexual expression. For example, if you went to work in a very conservative Muslim country, such as Saudi, you would find a very public stance against lesbianism, backed up by big rocks and sticks, coupled with (due to the whole psychotic obsession with gender segregation )probably some of the best opportunities for sex you've ever encountered! Just keep it discreet, and try not to show to much anger when you hear anti-gay rhetoric.
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