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kurtz
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Location: Phaic Tan
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| Many schools have little to offer these days in the way of experienced teachers. |
"Experienced" is the key word. We've all heard that the "big chains" in VN are $elling kids (and sometimes retirees) a cert, then hiring the ones with no previous teaching experience (and sometimes no work experience at all) so that they can low-ball them on the salary. It's a nice business model that's been the trend for several years now. But students that are used to teachers who have been standing in the front of classrooms for years can easily spot the difference and so now the strategy seems to be backfiring on these schools. People just don't want to pay the same amount for greenhorns. |
The big chains are for people starting out in ESL and provide a safe environment to learn the trade. If you're experienced, you shouldn't be working for $19-$24 an hour when there are better opportunities on offer. The older and experienced teachers still hanging around in a mill are quite often jaded and not ambitious enough to change their lot in life. I think that's quite cynical of you to suggest it's all about low wages in terms of hiring greenhorns. Feedback from students in my school is generally very good which shows the teachers are professional yet many are young. |
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half moon
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| It's quite clear that enrollments are down because the most of best teachers left VN several years ago upon seeing the signs of economic troubles ahead. Many schools have little to offer these days in the way of experienced teachers. |
There are several teachers with experience teaching throughout the two big cities in Vietnam. Plenty.
As for the inexperienced, yes they are here and they are always coming and going.
They get a celta and then get training at the bigger schools. Attitude and conscientious lesson planning and sharing ideas is what makes these inexperienced teachers do well.
I think enrollments are down because one, the value of GE (general English) is not clearly defined/noticed and two, there is an economic lull happening.
We should wait until after Summer to see if this economic lull is a blip or for a longer period of time.
As one poster stated on this thread (or another) the Summer programs will tell. But we should also realize that Summer program usually only run for 6 weeks. They are shorter, and they are also for getting a baby-sitter for the parents while the kids are on Summer holiday from school. |
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The Mad Hatter
Joined: 16 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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We really ought to wait until next year, say, about February, before we really can say if enrollments are down. While, usually it has been said that there is a lull after TEt for about two weeks, we all sense this year has been different.
Let's not make rash speculation... there is still plenty of work here. But we must wait until this year is over before we can really predict with any accuracy. I say we wait until NEXT YEAR. |
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